Adeptus Monotonous & Chapter Approved

[Questionable]

Wanting to get a feel for what the weirdos (joking) who like beating their heads against Impossible AI challenge achievements think about these.

What's the strategy to go for with Adeptus Monotonous? Only having 3 units to build, two of which are heroes and two of which are not exactly combat oriented. Set wildlife to high and poach as many kastelans as early as possible? Forward settle to use the city weapons? How do.

Chapter Approved is a lot more straight forward, which faction do you think is best suited for one city? My immediate assumption is Necrons because Lords can give you pop space without needing to waste tiles on housing buildings, but maybe mechanicus because of all the extra space they get in their city.

Thoughts?

[Munahif]

I did chapter approved as Necrons for the reason you listed, but I think Eldar would also be possible on a small map where you wouldn't have that many cities anyway. I can't seem to get the tech-priest achievement to work out for me, but I'll be watching this thread for tips!

[Kitsune]

I am pretty sure electro priests also count as tech priests and I am not sure if Kastelans count or not for being built since they are canticle units unlike everything else. I really wish the achievement was more clear or the tooltips for units specifically told you what units are tech priests. But electro priests end up becoming your standard foot soldiers for this challenge, which air units being the real pain of the challenge, us dominus to shoot them down and be sure to spam manipulus priest stun ability since it is a free action and has a one turn cooldown when fully levelled.

[Questionable]

For kastelans I was thinking of the wild ones you can reprogram with your tech priests, surely that'd not count as building anything other than tech priests, same with founding cities? Would have to test it and I'm all tuckered out on doing the impossible achievements after getting Rana Dandra and WHo Guards the Guard.

And yeah I forgot about the electrostim boys so there's 4 units you can construct, 2 of which are heroes.

[Kitsune]

No no, capturing wild Kastelans is fine, I am just not sure if built ones count or not since they count as canticle units unlike every other vehicle unit to admech.

Also I am experimenting with a small map with low landmass. Make the map work for you and give you lots of chokepoints, letting you hold them back while you can build up your force while also being able to get to them hopefully before they can make air units. I will post on how it turns out.

[Questionable]

Pretty much all robotic units in the AdMech army is a canticle unit (Kastelans, Katephrans, Knight Crusaders etc.), Adeptus Monotonous explicitly says "Only Techpriests" which tells me you gotta produce units with "Techpriest" in their name.

[Kitsune]

Anything from the sub cloister is a tech priest and all other vehicle/robotic units fall under doctrina inparitives like the skitarii, all except the Kastelans who fall under Canticles of the Omnissiah and the Knight Crusaders who do not fall under either since they are technically part of the Adeptus Titanicus and not the Adeptus Mechanicus

[Questionable]

Just realized that the "tech priest" that capture kastelans and builds cities isn't called a tech-priest so I think it might actually count against the achievement. So that achievement's already way harder than I thought it was if the description of it is true.

Also Kataphron Destroyers are Canticles units.
Knight Crusader is neither, I thought it was a Canticles unit but I guess not.
Fulgurite Electro-Priests are also not called tech-priests so they'd be out...

So you'd literally only be able to build Tech-Priest Dominus and Tech-Pries Manipulus, the two hero units. Idk how that's even feasible on impossible difficulty.

If the criteria for the achievement is that you're only building Canticles units and not only Tech-Priests then 1. the description of the achievement needs to be changed to reflect that and 2. its a lot more doable as that would give you access to all 4 units that come out of the tech-priest building, Kastelans and the Kataphron Destroyer. Doable but still insanely hard.

[GUNGA]

Chapter approved I did with necrons against space marines since they can only built 1 city too. wildlife to the max to delay them.

[Questionable]

Originally posted by 🅶🆄🅽🅶🅰:

Chapter approved I did with necrons against space marines since they can only built 1 city too. wildlife to the max to delay them.

What build/strat did you go for when you finally did engage them?

[Kitsune]

Datasmiths and Electro Priests are tech priests both by lore and they flavour text, along with the flavour text for the cloister confirming all units from it are tech priests, but the achievement is indeed vague.

[Rok]

I've updated the description for Adeptus Monotonous so it's clearer.

Additionally, reprogramming Kastelans and building cities is fine.

[Munahif]

Originally posted by Rok:

I've updated the description for Adeptus Monotonous so it's clearer.

Additionally, reprogramming Kastelans and building cities is fine.

Much better!

As Adeptus Mechanicus, win a solo game on impossible difficulty by producing units only from Sub-Cloisters

[Questionable]

Excellent. Now I can stare longingly at the achievement with the complete and full knowledge that I'll never get it cause I suck at this game

[GUNGA]

Any tips for the adeptus monotonous one?

[GUNGA]

Done it against necro, tiny map with few necron tombs and max wildlife. It was surprisingly easy.