Dreadnought fragility

[LuciusRex (KRALJ)]

Anyone else think the dreadnought is a bit too fragile for what it's suppose to do (getting up close and crushing stuff)?
Perhaps an extra armour point or a bit more hp would do the trick?

[Jey]

No.
36 HP 8 armor is 6 HP more than a Carnifex which is 33% more expensive and does the same job (but needs a T5 and T6 tech to be good at it).

[LuciusRex (KRALJ)]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Iffu:

No.
36 HP 8 armor is 6 HP more than a Carnifex which is 33% more expensive and does the same job (but needs a T5 and T6 tech to be good at it).

Buff the carnifex too?

[Jey]

Uh. No.
I'm not sure you quite understand how strong 36 HP and 8 armor is :/.

What units exactly cause you trouble?

[LuciusRex (KRALJ)]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Iffu:

Uh. No.
I'm not sure you quite understand how strong 36 HP and 8 armor is :/.

What units exactly cause you trouble?

Let's just say 2 squads of tankbustas go right through one.

[Jey]

I... yes?
I mean, you're telling me "If someone invests as much resources as me in anti-tank unit, he can beat my tanks".
That's normal.

It's normal that the melta bomb of the Orks can deal with a Dreadnought. It's a 10 turns CD!

You should probably make other units to assist your Dreadnoughts :)

[LuciusRex (KRALJ)]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von ;2962769352289116315:

I... yes?
I mean, you're telling me "If someone invests as much resources as me in anti-tank unit, he can beat my tanks".
That's normal.

It's normal that the melta bomb of the Orks can deal with a Dreadnought. It's a 10 turns CD!

You should probably make other units to assist your Dreadnoughts :)

I disagree that a vehicle unit that is meant to get close should be so vulnerable. And yes, I support it.

[LuciusRex (KRALJ)]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von LuciusRex (KRALJ):

Ursprünglich geschrieben von ;2962769352289116315:

I... yes?
I mean, you're telling me "If someone invests as much resources as me in anti-tank unit, he can beat my tanks".
That's normal.

It's normal that the melta bomb of the Orks can deal with a Dreadnought. It's a 10 turns CD!

You should probably make other units to assist your Dreadnoughts :)

I disagree that a vehicle unit that is meant to get close should be so vulnerable. And yes, I support it.

I think the toughness of the dreadnought was better represented in Warhammer 40k:Armageddon

[Jey]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von LuciusRex (KRALJ):

I disagree that a vehicle unit that is meant to get close should be so vulnerable.

I'm sorry. What do you mean by "SO" vulnerable?
A dreadnought costs 60 requisition.
Two tankbustas cost 30 food and 30 ore. AND their tankbusta bombs are only once every 10 turns.
The investment is similar. And at equal levels, two tankbustas are not enough to actually kill off the Dreadnought, you'll need an additional support.
With just a few overwatch behind your dreadnoughts (like a few tacticals), you can kill one or two tankbustas, and reduce the damage you take (while killing them next turn).

It's normal that anti-tank units can kill tank units with similar investment....