Censorship apparently extends beyond the Developer's initial statement of only affecting the endings

[Prototype]

Originally posted by danygia:

I now watched some new Agony gameplay, i confirm that not only the ending is censored:

-The scene where kids like creatures being crushed by rocks now have blue/purple blood, on the demo was red.
DEMO: (go to near 9:50 minute of the video) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JpvbWrqYJGk
FULL GAME: (go to near 2:56 minute of the video) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xeevz6NpjyI
-The scene where a Succubus eat a man's face now have camera angles less explicit, less blood and in the demo at the end of the scene before the succubus leaves you can see a shred of meat dangling from the mouth, in the final version you can not.
FULL GAME: (go to near 9:30 minute of the video) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bPC7V8H4dRI
DEMO: (go to near 0:29 second of the video) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2tZp6qE08JU

[SMIFFY]

Originally posted by Geneviève de Tourraine:

Originally posted by SMIFFY:

Memes

You just came here because I mentioned it at the hijacked thread of Mr. Brain?

Yes, and this the first thing I find. *rolls eyes*

[Poljanan]

You know. I'm starting to believe that there wasnt anything to censor at all and the devs didnt have to balls to do something provacative in the first place. The entire thing reeks of viral marketing to stir up interest ala Hatred.

For example, this is the Succubus ending

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EVF8Wmf8Cuk

You'd expect steamy lesbian sex with lots of HBO-style camera angling to censor the naughty bits right? No. It's just cuddling. The demons of hell, the most depraved, lecherous beings in reality, just cuddle.

If you were just trolling everyone, Mad Mind, then good job. You made everyone think that this would be the most unique, most hardcore version of Hell ever seen in gaming (and how no games today have been published with such content according to you), and you just blue balled everyone who had any hopes for you game.

Lmao. This was a very hilarious fiasco, this game.


BUT, that said, this also means that devs weren't lying about that 99% of the game being uncensored. There was NOTHING to censor in the first place. I must admit though, some of us are at fault of having too strong an imagination that we overestimated and exaggerated MMS' idea of hardcore gore and sexual themes. But then again, hey it was them who taunted us with all these promises form an expectation in the first place.

[robomagon]

Originally posted by mickandlee:

Originally posted by Lil Roonies 💕:

yo whatever happened to ♥♥♥♥ like Mad Max, when the nuclear apocalypse happens Australia will have the pussiest ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ remnants on god

Don't confuse the nanny state Aussie Govt with it's CITIZENS. I live there and can tell you that the people are not accurately represented by the government. Their rating system was updated in 2013 but is still flawed in two aspects; 1) drugs connected to REWARDS is specifically not allowed and 2) explicit r@pe. EVERYTHING else is rated and sold without issue.

Agony was released there in the same state as everywhere else and the game was NOT censored because of THEIR system. It was ironically due to the ESRBs hatred of sexual content.

Also, Australia is rated as one of the best places on Earth to live (above the USA technically) and has all the freedoms the US has except guns and a few rare instances of video game censorship. The media tends to publish hyperbole about Oz. Also, sex and nudity is on TV there and language is almost never censored. It's citizens are not "♥♥♥♥♥♥♥".

You lost me at "except guns".

[DoopForces]

Originally posted by Poljanan:

just cuddling

Seems gaaaaaay.

Another thing to fix.

Or perhaps that was their artistic vision some kind of "gentle after all". Dunno will see, don't want to spoil.

Some of other endings are more brutal, right?

[Brother Erxkum]

Originally posted by (B.O.) Supreme Leader Trump:

Originally posted by Poljanan:

just cuddling

Seems gaaaaaay.

Another thing to fix.

Or perhaps that was their artistic vision some kind of "gentle after all". Dunno will see, don't want to spoil.

Some of other endings are more brutal, right?

The Devs could benefit from watching Devilman Crybaby for some ideas.

[mouth]

Originally posted by Malagon:

Originally posted by Seagal:

What's kind of sad is that these guys are claiming their studio could get shut down, etc, but I can pretty much guarantee you that they will never release another title under that name ever again. They did permanent damage to their reputation, and these kinds of things don't go away.

This is the worst part in my opinion. These guys had a vision and the passion to deliver it, had financial backers who funded them early on when they were small and needed money, and then somewhere along the line they lost sight of their dream and went after the $$$ and we got this. People will remember this and it will probably kill the development team, mark my words.

Same ol ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ kickstarter story. Same ♥♥♥♥ happened to System Shock Remastered. Devs get greedy and bad ♥♥♥♥ happens. Compromises, censorship, lies. Lies everywhere.

[Tracido]

Originally posted by Poljanan:

You know. I'm starting to believe that there wasnt anything to censor at all and the devs didnt have to balls to do something provacative in the first place. The entire thing reeks of viral marketing to stir up interest ala Hatred.

For example, this is the Succubus ending

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EVF8Wmf8Cuk

You'd expect steamy lesbian sex with lots of HBO-style camera angling to censor the naughty bits right? No. It's just cuddling. The demons of hell, the most depraved, lecherous beings in reality, just cuddle.

If you were just trolling everyone, Mad Mind, then good job. You made everyone think that this would be the most unique, most hardcore version of Hell ever seen in gaming (and how no games today have been published with such content according to you), and you just blue balled everyone who had any hopes for you game.

Lmao. This was a very hilarious fiasco, this game.

Seriously? Looked like something I could see on tv not even late night, with the kids..

Originally posted by mouth:

Originally posted by Malagon:

This is the worst part in my opinion. These guys had a vision and the passion to deliver it, had financial backers who funded them early on when they were small and needed money, and then somewhere along the line they lost sight of their dream and went after the $$$ and we got this. People will remember this and it will probably kill the development team, mark my words.

Same ol ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ kickstarter story. Same ♥♥♥♥ happened to System Shock Remastered. Devs get greedy and bad ♥♥♥♥ happens. Compromises, censorship, lies. Lies everywhere.

Capitalism is goood, no matter the cost, we know that art doesn't matter, only profits do. Backers, even financial backers, know this, amirite?

It's just good business.

[Poljanan]

Originally posted by Erxkum:

Originally posted by (B.O.) Supreme Leader Trump:

Seems gaaaaaay.

Another thing to fix.

Or perhaps that was their artistic vision some kind of "gentle after all". Dunno will see, don't want to spoil.

Some of other endings are more brutal, right?

The Devs could benefit from watching Devilman Crybaby for some ideas.

Good of you to mention Devilman. Now THAT was an anime that simply gave no fcks. Compared to Agony, this game might as well have been PG-13. I honestly have no idea why they had so much trouble trying to get this off the censors when the game as it is so very tame and not even offensive (which again, according to Madmind was untouched except for two endings). At best, you get some naked mutilated corpses, well whoop-dee-doo, almost every gory game these days has that, to a point that they look more like halloween props.

[Tracido]

Originally posted by Poljanan:

Originally posted by Erxkum:

The Devs could benefit from watching Devilman Crybaby for some ideas.

Good of you to mention Devilman. Now THAT was an anime that simply gave no fcks. Compared to Agony, this game might as well have been PG-13. I honestly have no idea why they had so much trouble trying to get this off the censors when the game as it is so very tame and not even offensive (which again, according to Madmind was untouched except for two endings). At best, you get some naked mutilated corpses, well whoop-dee-doo, almost every gory game these days has that, to a point that they look more like halloween props.

Remember, they got this universally released exactly the same.

That was clearly the contract they never told the backers about until the last second.

[Poljanan]

Originally posted by mouth:

Originally posted by Malagon:

This is the worst part in my opinion. These guys had a vision and the passion to deliver it, had financial backers who funded them early on when they were small and needed money, and then somewhere along the line they lost sight of their dream and went after the $$$ and we got this. People will remember this and it will probably kill the development team, mark my words.

Same ol ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ kickstarter story. Same ♥♥♥♥ happened to System Shock Remastered. Devs get greedy and bad ♥♥♥♥ happens. Compromises, censorship, lies. Lies everywhere.

By now, people should now be more wary of crowdfunded games from now on.
It always happens like this.

>Devs dont want to deal with scummy publishers
>Ask people to crowd fund their game concepts
>People who like their idea gives them money
>Promises, promises, etc.
>Years later devs eventually bail out to some publisher
>Backers tell them this is a bad idea
>Devs promise that it will result in the game being more polished
>More promises and delays
>Surprise, surprise, publisher tells devs to take out the very things that the backers paid for
>after god knows how many delays, game releases to utter disappointment

It's a harsh cycle and I think only a handful of games became legit success due to crowdfunding.

[Sweet-Sophie]

Originally posted by danygia:

♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ censors ♥♥♥♥, they ruined a potentially good game. It's the idea of ​​playing something castrated that makes me feel sick. A censored version can't be defined satisfactory if a disturbing and explicit product is expected.

Two midly censored endings, purple blood at one point (have you ever been to hell? maybe the bleed purple there, we don't know ;) ) and tonned-down v*ginas. Ohhh the v*ginas! Every male gamer cries in a corner now because the p*ssy is nowhere to be seen in this game. It is the end of the world. The epidome of failure in game development. V*ginas.

Maybe try to meet a girl in real life for a change?

[Tracido]

Originally posted by Poljanan:

Originally posted by mouth:

Same ol ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ kickstarter story. Same ♥♥♥♥ happened to System Shock Remastered. Devs get greedy and bad ♥♥♥♥ happens. Compromises, censorship, lies. Lies everywhere.

By now, people should now be more wary of crowdfunded games from now on.
It always happens like this.

>Devs dont want to deal with scummy publishers
>Ask people to crowd fund their game concepts
>People who like their idea gives them money
>Promises, promises, etc.
>Years later devs eventually bail out to some publisher
>Backers tell them this is a bad idea
>Devs promise that it will result in the game being more polished
>More promises and delays
>Surprise, surprise, publisher tells devs to take out the very things that the backers paid for
>after god knows how many delays, game releases to utter disappointment

It's a harsh cycle and I think only a handful of games became legit success due to crowdfunding.

Hey my gf and my kids apparently need to meet a girl in real life? Not sure why, unless I want to ask her for a threesome? Don't you love the fact those are the new fans here?

[Rodrigo]

sorry i just woke up... I guess people had enough time to play the game so.... did they really censored more than they claim??

mixed reviews are worrying me... I waited for this game for far too long now.

[WOLFFLOWRED]

guys if you look in game files there are apex files from nvidia one is nv cloth, i just found a dead guy covered in cloth,get to a hard angle zoom in and there is a very detailed p,e.nis phys x clothing apex are there for devs to quickly at clothing just woundering if we delete the files it might give us a bit more un censor

[Brother Erxkum]

Originally posted by Sweet-Sophie:

Originally posted by danygia:

♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ censors ♥♥♥♥, they ruined a potentially good game. It's the idea of ​​playing something castrated that makes me feel sick. A censored version can't be defined satisfactory if a disturbing and explicit product is expected.

Two midly censored endings, purple blood at one point (have you ever been to hell? maybe the bleed purple there, we don't know ;) ) and tonned-down v*ginas. Ohhh the v*ginas! Every male gamer cries in a corner now because the p*ssy is nowhere to be seen in this game. It is the end of the world. The epidome of failure in game development. V*ginas.

Maybe try to meet a girl in real life for a change?

I think you're assuming we want to be satisfied by our videogames because we are incels, you assume wrong, at least I'm speaking for myself.

I'm a sucker for unrated content on movies, I love graphical violence and explicit themes, I'm not underage, I can choose what media is proper for me to consume.

I condone the devs for promising and not delivering, other than that it is their game, they can do whatever they want, I'm just disappointed and won't be spending my money on something that is not what I was looking forward to.

It's just frustrating when someone like me, who enjoys explicit content sees it getting harder and harder to find these days, like I already said on a previous post:

https://steamcommunity.com/app/487720/discussions/0/1694922526918039631/?ctp=19#c1697174779842697426

Political Correcteness runs rampant in todays society, and yes it bothers me and while I don't actively lobby for it, that doesn't mean I'm going to cave in and support media that caves in to or are part of the current PC politics.