Best Productive Enterprises for each town?

[Weizen1988]

I think the question is pretty clear really. What is the most profitable enterprise for each town? I checked a wiki and a few forums, but it seemed like old information and never seemed to actuallly have an answer.

[Spycrab Zoidberg]

It really depends on the town, such said, an ironworks in Curaw is almost always the best choice for that particular city. As economy is randomized in most of the cities, you'll have to experiment, but mostly look at what they produce. And never start a bakery, as villages get richer, they'll make more bread, resulting in negative outcome.

[Miiiiiiiiiiiiike]

No one knows the best enterprises off by heart. Richaveg has a good return on Dyeworks however. It could be Reyvadin, I think it is Reyvadin actually, the Northern most town.

Generally dyeworks gives the largest return, but at the largest investment. I tend to think that if I get a 10% return from my investment then it is good, as in 10 weeks I will be better off. A brewery that gives 250 denar a week is a higher return than a dyeworks at 500 per week.

Of course, if you strictly want the big bucks and have lots of capital to invest go for the biggest earners. A brewery is usually a good enterprise to fill that gap when you have a small party, no fiefs and little capital to invest.

As the game progresses you want higher earning enterprises to keep your coffers full as you have many troops in your party and within garrisons. Although by then the income from feifs often pays for the people inside.

[Weizen1988]

So Curaw and Reyvadin are known, the rest just go with whatever seems best? Oddly im only short of money after i swear vassalage to someone, until then im just ping ponging between tournaments and raider hunting, and about 3-4 tournaments betting on myself and a raider group gets me nearly enough for dyeworks, once i join a faction i keep getting ordered to sack cities for other people while my village gets overrun, so im thinking i should wait to join a faction until after i own businesses in every town, only downside is that pisses off every king, they keep sending me offers to swear vassalage.

[Miiiiiiiiiiiiike]

Before I seriously joined up with a faction I got about 7 enterprises in towns across the map. Of course when you join up with a faction some enterprises cannot trade due to it being in an opposing factions town.

Don't sack villages for people, if they tell you to do it, just say no. Protect your village, put a bakery, messenger post and watchtower in it if you have the money. Sacking villages makes lots of people upset, companions, lords, villagers etc etc.

If you don't want to be a vassal, don't talk to any kings until you have achieved what you want.

I don't know if you do, but you can get a sizeable income in from buying goods in one town/village and selling them in another. If you increase you trade skill your ability to buy at lower prices increases and you can sell at higher prices.

Some enterprises can make a lot of money if you babysit them, that is buy the raw materials in a town for cheaper than what your master brewer/dyer/tanner can buy it for. When you put a raw material into the enterprises inventory it comes up with a price of what it is worth to them. If you paid less than that price, you will make a bigger profit, if you paid more the business will still make a profit, but the amount of money in your pocket would be less than if you let the business do everything itself.

[T R A I T O R]

No, it is Rivacheg.

Reyvadin is towards the south of Vaegir territory.

Rivacheg is on the coast, that is the one where dyeworks can fetch you up to 1.6k, the most you can get off of an enterprise.

[Weizen1988]

Thank you Dots and others for clarifying all that, too many R towns in that kingdom.

[T R A I T O R]

No problem, anything to help!

[Vuvo]

Dots helped me get an extra 1,330 denars a week :D

['drn']

Can I point out when you select which Productive Enterprise you wish to build, before you purchase it they give you a predicted profit margin. Just look at the big earners and pick the best one for that town - Dyeworks, Toolworks or Brewery...but do note - the economy of the world changes - later on if times are peaceful luxury goods will sell better, earlier on or during a bitter war - bread will sell if the villages are being looted regularly.

[LowFatMilk]

Curaw also is great for Ironworks - it costs 3,500 to build and nets you around 350-480 per week depending on wars/raiding etc.

[Adendz]

Yeah i agree, Curaw is the best early investment. For the early game i just investing on Mill bakery, brewery, oil Press and ironworks, later invest all in Velvet Weavery and Dyeworks in every town.

[kevinshow]

Yea I also don't "memorize" or "remember" what is best. I just talk to the GM a few times and get a feeling for what I can afford and the profit I want. For most games, that would be one of the 3 weaveries for 10,000 for ~500+ profit. I used to think that having too many weaveries in Calradia will cause the prices to drop significantly, so the first time, I did try to buy various industries even if it wasn't the most profitable, but that hasn't happened, so now I just buy whichever one is best.

And although the industries do add up, their profit is generally constant. Compare that to a village or town, which may start out small but can grow to quite a lot. So besides industries, try to keep your villages and towns in proper order. Castles also grow in income and I think it relates to the villages around it, but since sometimes you can't build in all the nearby villages, just focus on them not getting looted or help them to grow in prosperity also.

[Cryten]

Of course one point to be made is that at war if you have any enemies (neg reputation) you will have to spend the whole time guarding your village or it will be looted. One of the best reasons to give villages to honoerable vassals.

[Aqu]

Rivacheg dyeworks and Curaw ironworks are maybe the best investments in enteprises. If you have the money to invest then do it. However there are some trade routes which can give lot higher profits and require less investments. This requires of course that you travel those routes, but travelling doesn't take so many days and in a week you can make lot of money.

Some cheap trade items normally
Tulga: spices (<400), salt
Curaw: iron (~100)
You can get more than 2x profit for those when selling in proper places.

[Weizen1988]

Does Diplomacy mod change any of this?