(Viking conquest) Tournaments kinda suck

[rman88]

i should note that i never realy liked the tournament system in this game. mainly because the battles always had this random weapon approach. where you could in theory get a bad weapon. thou in the past games this was not much of an issue. in reality the worst thing you could get is a being an archer on foot vs a man on horseback with a lance. thou this was never to much of an issue for me. it still felt like a real tournament.

that said when you get into viking conquest. they threw away the idea of fighting in an arena. leaving it in a field of rocks with no one even watching you fight. they massively changed the number of possible item load outs. for example no archers, crossbow, nothing on horseback. you are stuck with these possibilities a spear and shield, sword and shield, staff and shield, dagger and shield, 7 throwing javelins and shield with spear, axe with shield and thats it. worst part is some of these items do so little damge or are so unwieldy that i had to just kick the guy to death.

makes me miss the old arena and getting 1 shoted by some guy who got lucky and got a horse with a lance.

[Sohei]

Yeah lots of people have complained about this. I think it is a fair criticism.

http://steamcommunity.com/app/48700/discussions/0/619573787408587499/


Getting one shotted isn't so terrible but the weapons provided should be at least comparable in capability if not quite equal. For example when you both spawn with the same weapon but only one spawns with a shield there is an obvious balance problem.

[rman88]

well i have to point this out. in the old game each arena was pretty much the same. but how they had you fight was different. i recall some had you only use range weapon. others had everyone on horseback. and while it was still the same fight. it was still new. meanwhile the only thing that is new in this game is... just the arenas them self. as every different city has a new arena. but other then that nothing,

also to say that the items were balanced is a understatement. in the old game if you got lucky and you got a bow or a javelin. you pretty much had the worst mella weapons in the game. which pretty much was a dagger and nothing. it still felt balanced thou. i never got frustrated farming gold and renown off of it.

also have to note that i have seen a bug where one side had more forces then any other. not sure if that was just and odd coincidence. but it kinda was annoying. and makes me think about going back to native warband. kinda sad when the old game is pretty much superior to the new one in every forum or way. and i hope they dont ♥♥♥♥ up banner lord.

[Sohei]

I like the arena melees and tournaments in the A Clash of Kings mod. There is a good variety of different arena layouts. You bring your own gear into the arena. There is still imbalance in gear but at least you can buy new stuff to gain an edge if you want. One or two of the arenas were bugged last I checked where the AI did not move around correctly but there are many other arenas to choose from.

[rman88]

meh not worried about it. i gave up with viking conquest. thou i did learn a few intreasting tricks on how to edit stuff.

[terry309]

Agreed

[Pirate Beard]

I hope you know that thou is no where near the same word as though, or even tho, if you're lazy.

But yeah, I completely agree. Tournements suck in VC. There is absolutely nothing more that I hate about them than getting a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ seax and no shield, when my opponents gets sword and shield, spear and shield, club and shield, ect.

[rman88]

sadly i realy dont care. if you want to be a grammar Nazi then go ahead. like i said to everyone who has argued with me about it in the past. it only lowers my opinion and makes me care less about yours. then again i dont care about you as you are someone half way across the planet that i will never meet or see again. in other words none of this conversation matters to me.


that said not going to argue with you. thou i would like to add for banner lord. that they would change it to be more based on real Tournaments. this means that they would be separated by 2 levels. ones for nobles and ones for peasants. the peasants would revolve around the normal group battle. as that was fairly common. thou lords could join as well. meanwhile nobles would focus more on skill then groups of fighters. thus you would have jousting, one on one combat and archery. most of which would be miny games as jousting and archery would be kinda difficult to do with just a normal combat.

[Pirate Beard]

I was hoping to not be rude, but that was just an ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ remark from you. It's not grammar, it's spelling. Your opinion doesn't matter, the word you're using does not mean what you want it to.

Thou means you. So your use of it makes no sense. If English isn't your first language, I'm trying to help. If it IS your first language and you're still making that mistake, it's pretty sad.

[rman88]

no your trying to be annoying. i did not ask for your help, nor do i care. also the term grammar Nazi is a reference to a group of people who cant ignore mistakes in spelling and grammar. and its typcialy frowned upon as it is more or less viewed as a insult. especially sense it has nothing to do with the main topic. and thus it causes conflict and defeats the point of the thread. add in the fact that this thread has nothing to do with grammar. nor dose anyone want an English lesson from some smart ass half way across the planet.

also English is my first language. i just dont care. if you find that sad well i dont care. like i said your someone thousands of miles away. your opinion of me dont matter. hell i could unsubscribe from this thread and never look back.

[Pirate Beard]

If I was a Grammar Nazi I would've bothered to fix all your mistakes, and trust me, there are MANY! You really just cannot take any form of criticism, can you? I tried to help you with one mistake because it was completely the wrong word. And here you are crying about it. Go ahead and unsubscribe from your own forum post because someone who tried to help you is souring your puss.

Public schooling has failed you.

[rman88]

says the man who cant let it go. this is not even worth my time.

[Pirate Beard]

You're the one who start whining about it instead of just either A) Ignoring my post, or B) Accepting what I said and respond to the second half of my comment.

[Sohei]

rman88's communication skills are very poor in general but I don't think there is much point in us pointing out the specific errors. He has to want to correct himself and it is pretty clear he can't be bothered. It would take a lot of effort for him to correct himself on everything. While I think it would be effort well spent I understand that there are many others who do not see the value in effective communication. The only thing I will say about it is that the spelling, grammar, word choice, and composiotion mistakes are not the main problems. The main problem is just a defensive and confrontational attitude but that certainly isn't something that anyone else can do anything about. So it is best that we just leave it alone.