Is King Ragnar generous?

[Giga Gilgamesh]

Since the Nords have the best infantry, i'll likely start with them. Will King Ragnar give out fiefs generously, or will he pull a King Harlaus the Fat and take them all himself?

[Coldsmoke]

Lord Valerius původně napsal:

Xenothor původně napsal:

If the king denies you a fief that you captured you can rebel and keep your fiefs, but if you go to the king and ask to be released from your oath, you are stripped of all fiefs.

Can you rebel without him denying you a fief?
Also how do you rebel?

just capture something when you are by yourself with no oaths to anyone.

[Xenothor]

The king has to deny you a fief to rebel. If he decides not to award you a fief that you captured, he will offer you some money as compensation. You can either take the money, or renouce your oath, and start your own faction with any towns and cities that you have plus their associated villages, and of course you will be at war with your old faction.

As for how eo do this, it's very easy. When the king decides not to award you a fief, you will get a message advising you of such, and you'll be able to select one of two options. Except the money, or renouce your oath, Select the later and your rebellion begins. This is different from going to the king and asking to be released from your oath which does not start a rebellion, and will cost you any fiefs that you have.

[fishhooks]

Xenothor původně napsal:

If the king denies you a fief that you captured you can rebel and keep your fiefs, but if you go to the king and ask to be released from your oath, you are stripped of all fiefs.

Noooo....your king requests that you return all fiefs, but you can tell him to go pound sand, there-by keeping your lands, but then being at war with him.

[Xenothor]

fishhooks původně napsal:

Xenothor původně napsal:

If the king denies you a fief that you captured you can rebel and keep your fiefs, but if you go to the king and ask to be released from your oath, you are stripped of all fiefs.

Noooo....your king requests that you return all fiefs, but you can tell him to go pound sand, there-by keeping your lands, but then being at war with him.

Not in native, but this option exists in some mods. The only way to keep your fiefs in native is the way I already explained.

[Darth Cannabis]

In my experience with Ragnar on my last Nord run, he most definately went with a victor gets the spoils mentality. Sieged place almost always went to the lord that captured it. The family I married into ended up particularly well off.

[fishhooks]

At any time, you can renounce your oath, and tell him you're not returning your fiefs. This puts you at war with him immediately, but you got your lands at least. NOTE...prior to doing this, you should do some "fief trading" with other lords to consolidate your towns and castles in a concentrated area so they're more defensible. Villages don't matter. since you'll lose any that you don't already own the associated town or castle for...BUT you'll automatically pick up any villages associated with the towns and castles you DO own, so it's kinda a wash.

[Sol]

fishhooks původně napsal:

At any time, you can renounce your oath, and tell him you're not returning your fiefs. This puts you at war with him immediately, but you got your lands at least. NOTE...prior to doing this, you should do some "fief trading" with other lords to consolidate your towns and castles in a concentrated area so they're more defensible. Villages don't matter. since you'll lose any that you don't already own the associated town or castle for...BUT you'll automatically pick up any villages associated with the towns and castles you DO own, so it's kinda a wash.

I think what your mentioning at least requires Diplomacy, because I know for a fact that you cant trade fiefs in vanilla native, or rebel with fiefs, unless you back a claimaint, get denied a fief you capture, or your a Women and Rebel via husband option.