Honour..

[GenericPerson3457]

Does honour have any real value? Apart from courting and relations with lords?
If so I'M DEAD. I try to join a kingdom early on to then get a load of cities, betray them then take the map over. Anyway, King Graveth asked me to do many dishonourables stuuf so my honour is... bad to say the least...

[AxeKnight]

it mostly does those things, but it also affects your likelyhood of beng marshal. more info here
http://mountandblade.wikia.com/wiki/Honor

[Cat]

You can fix it up very quickly. Best by being at war with a faction and fighting their lords, then letting them go free after the fight. Sometimes I join a big faction fight and end up with 3-4 surrendering, that's 9-12 honour right there. If they're kings though, you may prefer to keep them as prisoner, vanilla paid much better for those, yes?

[White Knight]

Originally posted by Night Cat:

...vanilla paid much better for those, yes?

Kings in vanilla Warband typically bring in 10k. I've seen it go as high as 17k and once in a while, with weakened factions, you get much less. Also, Kings can never join your faction so I always stick them in my dungeons. Everything to gain, nothing to lose by doing so.

Unless of course you count the angry faction coming to your town to free their King...that might be one downside...or not.

I'm sure the wiki can tell you far more than I can but from a role-playing perspective, I like to keep my honour as high as possible (releasing enemy lords, refusing rewards, etc.). In my mind it would make everything a little easier with good people; recruiting, business dealings, relations with others, rebellions, etc. Not sure if any of that is true or not but I don't really care...it's still fun.

[Tuidjy]

If I play the way I'd act, I end up with very high honor. I do dishonorable things, sometimes: I will start a war between two kingdoms I want to weaken, I will attack a lord or threaten peasants to worsen relations, etc... But at the end of the first year, my honor is usually between two and three hundreds.

How useful is it? Meh. It makes good people like you more, but in many mods, good people are the least useful, because they hardly ever turn on their king, no matter how badly they are treated. It helps you get into a honorable family or to be allowed to court the daughter of an honorable lord, I guess.

It is not intuitive, but it is true: good relations with bad people are a lot more important than good relations with good people, in Mount and Blade. Bаstards get things done.

[GenericPerson3457]

I nearly always end up with good honour. This is an obvious execption XD.

Anyway, I noticed that king graveth is kinda angry with me... for having my honour low.... FROM HIS MISSIONS!! *sigh*

One last thing.. I may be VERY wrong about this, but doesnt honour cap at 99?

[White Knight]

Originally posted by domonkos:

One last thing.. I may be VERY wrong about this, but doesnt honour cap at 99?

Nope, mine is currently 202.

[Strygald]

I found honour to be pretty useless in native and Floris mod, doesn't do anything that you'd really care to notice.

In Prophesy of Pendor however i'm grinding up to 70 honour so I have the option of forming my own knighthood, a pain in the ass when you're like me(ie* I like collecting enemy nobles in my prison and refusing ransom offers) :o

[Cat]

Can you design or hire your own knights with that or what?
I tried the mod but didn't get far, it was odd.

[Gerarddefries]

You can either join an existing knighthood order, when you create an existing knighthood order at your castle, you will be able to get recruits or create one by yourself for a qualis gem.
Note: it takes long to upgrade your own order.
Prophesy of pendor is an awesome mod. :p

[Cat]

How do you get qualis gems?

[Tuidjy]

The leaders of some special armies ransom themselves with gems. One can be found in a chest in one of the cities. And I vaguely remember that there was another way... it's been a long time ago since I've played that mod, but I'm pretty sure that there was a way to grind them.

[Cat]

Alright. I gotta give it another shot i guess. I had trouble starting out and that annoyed me. And the start sort of is stupid isn't it? Right from the beginning, a 1 man army, has to be at war with one of the few factions there are. Bleh. As if wandering parties of 30-40 elite troops and a near complete lack of looters wasn't enough.

[Gerarddefries]

Starting is hard, but try to join a kingdom, it will be a lot easier

[Добрый рубака]

nice