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Hold your left arm straight.
Point to your right side.
Now imagine pulling a fifty kilo bow while doing so.
Your Mount&Blade character is right handed.
You DO have a full "arc" of fire... At least as far as riding on horseback is concerned. As your Horse Archery skill improves, you'll be more accurate while moving on horseback and that will help offset, somewhat, your more limited arc of fire while mounted.
This. If you have never used a bow, just pretend like you are holding one. If you draw with your right hand, you will only be able to shoot from the left, and vice versa. You can push it a little to the right, but only a little, and it becomes very difficult. I suppose someone who is very strong and skilled could draw it in a really awkward position, but idk how effective that would be.
Maybe there should be an ambidextrous skill that lets you switch up on the fly in the middle of a fight. :P
It will still not work. The quiver will mess you up. And it is not as easy as moving the bow into the other hand. Even if your bow is symmetrical, which we can assume for an ambidextrous archer, your gloves would be different, you would have to move your thumb ring, your callouses would be in the wrong places, etc...
I am pretty good with a period bow, I know a number of archers, and there is only one who shoots ambidextrously. She is much more accurate drawing to her left eye, though. It's more about your dominant eye than your dominant arm, she says.
Doubt there would be a way of modeling/animating it in game at this point, though it would be very cool to have :)
Jjust control where your horse is going to give you that extra degrees of shot you need over you shoulder, whole point of a horse is the extra mobility after all.
If peeps are really intrested in the way actualy worked back in the day, check this video out it one of the cooler things ive seen recently about archery.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BEG-ly9tQGk
Lars Andersen can shoot really, really fast. This is the only good thing that can be said about him.
Lars Andersen is no archer, and no athlete. He is a rather uncoordinated, quite pathetic self-promoter, who uses cuts and retakes in his videos. His 'method' is completely worthless for anyone serious about archery. It is inaccurate, harmful for your body, and completely unsuited for any bow that can be used for hunting, let alone for warfare.
Once every mouth, like ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ clockwork, someone will post this ♥♥♥♥ on this discussion board, get flamed, and sulk away with his tail between his legs. Can we stop with the disinformation?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2zGnxeSbb3g
Ok i'll keep this quick seeing as people are incapable of thinking for themselves nowadays apparently:
His shooting style is legit, true you dont know how many shots or edits it took but all those shots you saw were made at some point. He's trick shooting plain and simple, its a style that works for him.
The wonderfull thing about archery is that while its common to almost every culture on earth, they way they use a bow is different in almost every one, you can't argue a bows is useless for warfare in any one way because different armies fought in different ways, English longbows were used from long range to rain arrows on large formations and Sassaninds used bows from horseback in wide open desserts and tundras. Can't really compare them.
Now people using a brain will know that people make money of youtube vids. LOTS OF MONEY, and they have to be entertaining/intresting for people to watch, is everything in the video historically acurate or true? Of course not, most of his sources are misinterpreted at best and utter bs for other, for one its impossible to actually catch a (fully) drawn arrow shot from a bow (go watch mythbusters take on that), but is it entertaining to watch? Hell yes, and for anybody INTERESTED in archery, its worth a watch just for that fact alone. Just like every other 'the way archery worked' video thats on youtube by now, dull video titles dont get views.
He is not stating outright that he is an entertainer doing trick shots. He is pretending that his style is historical, re-discovered, and useful in warfare. He is insulting actual experts, millions of archers, and personally attacking re-enactors and researchers who actually know what they are doing. He is editing his videos, he is using lenses, he cuts between one shot and the result of a completely different shot, in order to deceive people into believing his claims. If this is legit, then nothing is fraudulent.
He is speed-shooting, which is, indeed a form of trick shots. He is claiming a lot more than that.
True and irrelevant.
I can claim that a foam sword is useless in warfare, and one can argue back, saying that it can be used to indicate mine fields, direct choppers to landing, etc... I can claim that a 12 pound bow, super light arrows, and a shooting style that guarantees inaccuracy after the second flex of the arrow... are useless in warfare. You can argue anything you wish.
True and irrelevant.
Yes, you can. Draw, resilience to weather conditions, bulk, construction, ease of stringing, storage, transportation, etc... And you can certainly compare a 12 pounder to them. It does not look good.
Pretty much everything in that video is misleading or deceitful. It is about as entertaining, to an archer, as the vaccine/autism study is entertained to a doctor, and the moon hoax videos are entertaining to an astronaut. Most people think that using deception to make money is immoral. Some legislatures think it is illegal.
Those who know about archery know it is ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ and bad advice, and are not entertained.
Those who are interested in archery may believe a lot of the ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥, and may even have to unlearn some of it if they want to actually get anywhere.
Those who become 'enlightened' and proselytize the 'amazing rediscovery' are an annoyance.
So, we should promote lies and deception so that Lars Andersen or whoever posted that ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ gets some money? Whatever.
I will do whatever little I can so that whenever someone links to such crap, there is a warning to go with it. Once the warning is seen, people can choose to believe the video, or do a couple of Google searches and see how much it's worth.
And the great thing about the internet is that he's only crap and a fraud in your opinion, now how about you stop derailing the topic with you 'opinion' by disrespecting my 'opinion'. Posting a huge rant on an obscure forum post will get you nowhere and i stand by what i said, end of the day regardless of what we think he brought archery as a whole back into the public eye, and you cant say thats a bad thing.
All "opinions" are not created equal. Facts are much sexier anyway.
Don't get mad at Tuidgy for explaining the truth to you, save that for the guy who suckered you into believing his lies.
He also never brought anything back, archery was never gone. There are lots of archers and hunters in the world and any one of them can explain to you how bogus Lars Andersen is. In fact, they already have...many times.
World famous archery champions come forward and denounce the guy as a fraud while giving citations and references throughout yet you choose to hold to your uninformed "opinion"?
That's on you, fella. Some mothers do 'ave 'em.
Like i pointed out to your friend Tuidgy, i think its a fun way to shoot, it is trick shooting after all. Other than hunting and tournament shooting archery isnt used that much nowadays, guns kinda put pay to that lol. Im more than happy that im informed on the subject, two people with strong views based of 'lots of archers and hunters' on a forum will do little to change my mind otherwise.
Can't argue that some mothers 'ave em though, see enough proof of that on steam daily.
And still, my skills at my best were not that great, compared to those the people who have debunked Lars's ♥♥♥♥. But Hell, look at the videos yourself.
The second video that's linked in his thread? The lens is wide, the person throwing targets is a short kid, and the room appears in the other video. He is firing from less than 10 meters. His bow is under 20 pounds, most people think half that. He is firing light arrows, because that's all the 'bow' can do. An arrow with a real warhead would be thrown by an adult male faster that his 'bow' could manage. More accurately too, I would not wonder.
He does not enter tournaments... because he is too good, he says. Or is it because most tournaments (like hunting laws) specify a minimum draw, and a minimum arrow weight? Or because his videos never show any accuracy without cuts?
In my first post, I said he shoots really, really fast. And that is all he does. He has not rediscovered anything. Drawing with the arm holding the bow has been done by period longbowmen since I first touched a bow. (By the way, it's done with chest and back, but with a toy like his, the arm is enough) In every period tournament, speed shooting is done with arrows in the draw hand. The difference? The bows are at least 30 or 45 pounds, depending on the event. The arrows have actual heads. The targets are three times further than his - his are within the first flex, because his 'technique' makes him unable to hit anything further than this.
There are videos on Youtube where people fire 10 warhead arrows with a composite bow from horseback in 12 seconds (Yeah, yeah, slower that him). I've seen it done in the 90s in Hungary, and it is being still done every year. But those videos state outright that it is trick shooting, because at those speeds the arrows don't have much kinetic energy. Compared to Lars's arrows, those are ballistic missiles.
Lars's video does not belong in a discussion about archery as applicable to warfare. It does not belong in a discussion of archery, except as an example of why things are not done that way. It definitely doesn't belong anywhere, without warnings about its problems.
And the truth is, I have a problem with ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ shouting so loud that the truth cannot be heard. And that's what Lars and his ignorant crowd of worshipers are doing. 'Rediscovered techniques', a 'new kin of archery'. Look at the guy. He is uncoordinated, his runs and jumps are unbalanced, his arms are not those of an archer. His videos often include digs at real archers and especially re-enactors and movie consultants (yes, I've done both, and I take it personally)
Every time I read one of "you would not want to go against him with a bow' I feel like challenging him at a duel, with blunt arrows and street clothes. (With any kind of gear, I'd agree to let him fire 1000 arrows at 20 meters) And people have challenged him.
And at the end, he is a whiny little LARPer. Nothing against LARPers, I've been that too. But most do not wave foam swords around at ARMA and HEMA meetings, extolling their prowess and insulting people.
In any case, I think I have written enough about this. Those with a brain know that if they want to learn the truth, they should look into the matter themselves. And there is no convincing some people.