All of my Soldiers don't Show up at Battles?

[Honeycone]

Hi!

So what's this about. Sometimes, only a portion of my soldiers actually show up at a battle. This can happen regardless if I'm fighting alone or with an ally.

[OldMemes.biz]

Any soldiers who are wounded below a certain percentage will show in red in the party screen and will not be able to fight as long as they are in red.

As well, depending on the total number of troops in a battle, some eligible fighters will not spawn into battle until and unless they are called in as reinforcements.

[Honeycone]

Originally posted by Pootis Spencer here!:

As well, depending on the total number of troops in a battle, some eligible fighters will not spawn into battle until and unless they are called in as reinforcements.

Any way to bypass that? Seems kind of sucky when I'm facing a fair opponent and half my infantry line doesn't show up

[Qwar]

Originally posted by Honeycone:

Originally posted by Pootis Spencer here!:

As well, depending on the total number of troops in a battle, some eligible fighters will not spawn into battle until and unless they are called in as reinforcements.

Any way to bypass that? Seems kind of sucky when I'm facing a fair opponent and half my infantry line doesn't show up

There's a slider at the options menu that says something like "Battle size". The number means the amoutn of soldiers that you can have at the field at a given moment. You can also install WB Battlesizer to modify it further (the limit is supposed to be 150 at native, but I've increased it to 250).

Btw, remember that the soldiers that spawn first are the ones higher in your party list.

[OldMemes.biz]

Originally posted by Honeycone:

Originally posted by Pootis Spencer here!:

As well, depending on the total number of troops in a battle, some eligible fighters will not spawn into battle until and unless they are called in as reinforcements.

Any way to bypass that? Seems kind of sucky when I'm facing a fair opponent and half my infantry line doesn't show up

No. It's dependent on total number of soldiers in the battle, period, which includes the enemy. Only way to avoid it is to purposely keep a smaller contigent and only engage smaller enemy groups.

So for exmaple, and this isn't exact, 50 vs 50 may spawn everyone, but 78 vs 63 might not. Then I think it depends on your tactics stat or whatnot. Someone can corrwect me if I'm wrong on the details but in general this is why.

[Honeycone]

Originally posted by Qvar:

There's a slider at the options menu that says something like "Battle size". The number means the amoutn of soldiers that you can have at the field at a given moment. You can also install WB Battlesizer to modify it further (the limit is supposed to be 150 at native, but I've increased it to 250).

Btw, remember that the soldiers that spawn first are the ones higher in your party list.

Ah, this will be very helpful! Thanks!

[OldMemes.biz]

Originally posted by Qvar:

Originally posted by Honeycone:

Any way to bypass that? Seems kind of sucky when I'm facing a fair opponent and half my infantry line doesn't show up

There's a slider at the options menu that says something like "Battle size". The number means the amoutn of soldiers that you can have at the field at a given moment. You can also install WB Battlesizer to modify it further (the limit is supposed to be 150 at native, but I've increased it to 250).

Btw, remember that the soldiers that spawn first are the ones higher in your party list.

Then there's that. But still, over a certain raw number, and that's when you get what you described.

[Jomba]

Originally posted by Qwar:

Originally posted by Honeycone:

Any way to bypass that? Seems kind of sucky when I'm facing a fair opponent and half my infantry line doesn't show up

There's a slider at the options menu that says something like "Battle size". The number means the amoutn of soldiers that you can have at the field at a given moment. You can also install WB Battlesizer to modify it further (the limit is supposed to be 150 at native, but I've increased it to 250).

Btw, remember that the soldiers that spawn first are the ones higher in your party list.

Thanks man you were right

[BingRazer]

Originally posted by Results Not Typical:

No. It's dependent on total number of soldiers in the battle, period, which includes the enemy. Only way to avoid it is to purposely keep a smaller contigent and only engage smaller enemy groups.

So for exmaple, and this isn't exact, 50 vs 50 may spawn everyone, but 78 vs 63 might not. Then I think it depends on your tactics stat or whatnot. Someone can corrwect me if I'm wrong on the details but in general this is why.

Tactics increases battle advantage which is determined by the number of troops you have vs the number of troops enemy has. A battle advantage of -1 means you have one less troop and the enemy has one more (effectively you have 2 fewer units on battlefield) while a +1 battle advantage means you have one more troop and the enemy has one less (again you have effectively 2 more units on battlefield at once) the battle advantage does not change how many total troops are on the encounter only how many from each side are present

[Essex]

Nah twice already i have gone into battle with fresh(nobody injured) 70+ troops against somebody with 30 and in the battle i have 28 and they have 40+ in the battle and reinforcements show up for them and both times i have lost everyone except my heros. Getting annoyed that other battles i win when the numbers are even but other battle where i am double theres i end up losing troops that i ahd for several hours all at decent lvls and up to warrior and skirmisher....and none of my calvery shows up except two and i ahve had up to 20 calvalry

[RandomDude]

Originally posted by Essex:

Nah twice already i have gone into battle with fresh(nobody injured) 70+ troops against somebody with 30 and in the battle i have 28 and they have 40+ in the battle and reinforcements show up for them and both times i have lost everyone except my heros. Getting annoyed that other battles i win when the numbers are even but other battle where i am double theres i end up losing troops that i ahd for several hours all at decent lvls and up to warrior and skirmisher....and none of my calvery shows up except two and i ahve had up to 20 calvalry

If the enemy army had only 30 men when you attacked but was fielding 40+ in the battle then obviously some of their allies joined. Did you notice some messages in the bottom left saying "X Lord has joined on the side of X lord"?

All the releveant information has already been stated by previous posters but I'll reiterate it.

"Battle Advantage" is gonna determine the proportion of you + ally's men on the field vs Enemy combined army on the field.

Battle advantage is determined by your "COMBINED ARMY" (your party + any friendly lords - you need a positive relation with them and they need to be hostile with your enemy) and your TACTICS skill vs highest enemy TACTICS skill.

If your Battle Advantage is low, you may only get to field 20% of the troops on the field whereas the enemy get to field 80%. Not 20% of your men, just 20% of the men on the field.

If you're victorious then usually the battle advantage will sway in your favour and the next battle will be easier.

If you set the battle sizer to 500-1000 (with mod/tool) you may be able to get around this. This is fine for field battles but in sieges it's a big mess for attackers.

[steve]

Fair enough that if the wounded soldiers don't come into battle but I hate it when I say in the planning section, follow me or charge and the hold.

[Tuidjy]

Originally posted by steve:

Fair enough that if the wounded soldiers don't come into battle but I hate it when I say in the planning section, follow me or charge and the hold.

The planning sessions of many mods are broken, because they just drop PBOD on top of their maps, divisions, troop ids, and expect it to work. So you get troops appearing in separate locations, spread along the map's edge, retreating on spawn, etc.

Any time you start a new mod, experiment to see which commands and pre-battle orders/deployment work, and which do not. And do not do it when you actually need to squeeze every ounce of effort from your troops. Do it when you have 120 knights against 10 looters.

[Random Name]

Originally posted by steve:

Fair enough that if the wounded soldiers don't come into battle but I hate it when I say in the planning section, follow me or charge and the hold.

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