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rune simpa 2016년 1월 24일 오후 9시 56분
Why (IMO) The Rhodoks are the Best Singleplayer Warband Faction
So before I support my claim with evidence, here is a disclaimer.
DISCLAIMER: I realize that you can conquer Calradia with any set up. I'm not trying to compose a closed opinion where I'm implying no other setup will be good enough. The point of this discussion is because, well, imagine this.
Imagine that you're playing multiplayer Campaign. What are some good strategies to defeat your opponent in battle? That's where I'm getting at. I realize that there are a million ways and a million setups and methods you can use to beat Singleplayer, and for all factions. You can conquer with massed Khergit Horse Archers. You can Conquer with Vaegir Archers and Cavalry. And so on.

Let's go on.

Reason 1: Rhodoks have access to the pike. This allows you to implement some creative strategies, such as the pike phalanx.

Reason 2: They have the best crossbowmen in the game, and I believe this is the strongest unit to have in Singleplayer (when in a right formation and with good infantry), because they are the only ranged units that can penetrate enemy shields. Their crossbows can also kill any and every single unit in 1-2 shots. It doesn't matter what armor they have. It takes only 2 shots to kill a Hired blade with plate armor, thanks to the Sharpshooter's Siege Crossbow and his steel bolts.

Reason 3: This is the most substantial reason and the most important reason. This is the main reason, and 50% alone of what makes the rhodoks so powerful. They're cheap.

Set up your Rhodoks so that 75% of your army consists of Sharpshooters, and 25% of your army consists of Sergeants. Plant your Rhodok Sharpshooters so that they are on top of a hill, then plant your Rhodok Sergeants 20 or 30 paces ahead of the sharpshooters, where they'll be placed towards the bottom of the hill. If the battle map doesn't have a hill, then do the same thing except place the sharpshooters behind a river or a cliff or trees.
This set up is more cost effective (especially if you use rhodok sergeants rather than nord huscarls).

Swadian Knight costs 31-59 dollars weekly.
Rhodok Sharpshooter costs 15-29 weekly.
Rhodok Sergeant also costs 15-29 weekly.
lets calculate their averages.
Let X be the minimum wage, and Y be the Maximum Wage.
The equation is:
(Y - X)/2 + X = The Average Wage.
So (29 - 15)/2 = 7.5; lets just use 7. Then 15 + 7 = 21.

Swadian Knight: A Whopping 45.
Rhodok Sharpshooter: 21
Rhodok Sergeant: 21

This means that A swadian knight is literally worth more than 1 rhodok sharpshooter and 1 rhodok sergeant put together.

The ratio is:
45/21. If we simplify, we get 15:7.

This means that for every 7 Swadian Knights, we can have 15 rhodok Sergeants or Sharpshooters, for the same price.

So that means we can have a whopping 150 rhodok Sharpshooters/Sergeants vs our opponent's 70 Swadian Knights for the same price.
150 Rhodoks cost about 3150 denars weekly.
70 Swadian Knights cost exactly the same. Well, close enough. 3150 denars on average.

On top of all those statistics, Swadian Knights take longer to train (correct me if i'm wrong), and their initial price costs more too. Heck, even a Swadian Man At Arms costs more weekly than 1 rhodok sharpshooter/sergeant.

Initial price for the Swadian Knight = 120.
Initial Price for Rhodok Sergeant = 80.
Initial Price for Rhodok Sharpshooter = 80.

Therefore, 2 Swadian knights cost 240, is completely equal to 3 rhodok sergeants/sharpshooters, also costing 240. This is another slight bonus for Rhodoks, maybe not a significant one though.

So in Conclusion:
-For every 7 Swadian Knights, you can have 15 Rhodoks for the same price.
-If I'm not mistakened, Swadian Knights take longer to train, and man at arms are already, itself, more expensive than rhodok sharpshooters/sergeants.
-For every 2 swadian knights, you can have 3 rhodoks for the same initial price.

Someday I'll go through the effort of finding how many rhodoks you can get before a swadian starts training swadian knights. Because i'm almost positive that swadian knights take longer to train. So it seems like to me, ultimately, with the same amount of money, by the time a Swadian opponent has 200 knights, you'll have idk, 600+ rhodoks for the same price, thanks to initial/weekly prices, and training time.

I guess the one problem is that you'll have to have high charisma, renown, and maybe other factors to even have that many soldiers, but charisma and intelligence are more important than strength and agility anyway, for the leader, as you can do operations that no body else can do (except for heroes i guess).

Reason 4: They are Green!!!!!!!!!!

Reason 5: This is also a very substantial reason, but a simple reason.

~80% of your battles on Warband will take place in Siege.

This Battle setup in which you have 75% sharpshooters and 25% sergeants massed, is really good, if not the best for Siege. Maybe in practice huscarls 1 by 1 are the best for siege raids (80 or so huscarls can wipe out like 500 khergit defenders), but again, Rhodoks are more cost effective. I'm too lazy to do the ratios and everything here, but basically you can have a higher number of rhodoks than of huscarls, for the same price too, and smaller initial costs. Their crossbowmen will shred all the other archers defending the castle, while the Sergeants storm the infantry. Then, those Sharpshooters help to aid the infantry in the storm in the process.

Reason 6: Not only Rhodok Sharpshooters are the best archers in the game (besides your character), but they make viable infantry too. Once they run out of ammunition in an open field battle or in a siege battle, they can join your Shield Wall and be the reason why you even won that battle you just won. They've got shields, okay armor, and Military picks/swords. Their proficiencies are fair too.

Reason 7: Rhodok Terrain has a lot of mountains, which form somewhat substantial defensive resources. They are perfect for implementing this sharpshooter and sergeant strategy, too.

So in Conclusion, Rhodoks are:
-Cost Effective
-Cheap
-Have access to pikes and great hammers
-Kickass crossbowmen that tear shields and armor with little shots. Really accurate too.
-Green
-Good for Siege battles, which will take place in 80% of your battles. Both offense and defense.
-Defensive, supportive Terrain
-Sharpshooters make viable infantry if necessary

Please let me know if I left anything out.
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Adahn (´ ᴥ `) 2017년 7월 7일 오후 9시 27분 
Firsty님이 먼저 게시:
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=970177854

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This is pretty normal considering that they are into bdsm
Rose 2017년 7월 7일 오후 10시 14분 
Okay you know who Da best is
the playerrrrrrr
Littlejon_LJ 2017년 7월 8일 오전 12시 44분 
Filthy Necros. In other news, I got a new mouse, with a tire for a scroll wheel, and automatic steering. Its pretty sweet.
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rune simpa 2017년 7월 8일 오전 8시 37분 
The problem with rhodoks is they are bad for speedrunning, I agree.
Gladiator 2019년 8월 14일 오후 3시 54분 
Nords are the best. The money is not a problem with enterprises. I can have a garrison of 1600 very good troops and get > 8000 weekly income. Get a lot of huscarls and the sharpshooters become useless since huscarls round shield can take lot of bolts. And the sergeants are no match for them.
Security Cam #7 2019년 8월 14일 오후 6시 11분 
Rodrigo Sambade Saá님이 먼저 게시:
Nords are the best. The money is not a problem with enterprises. I can have a garrison of 1600 very good troops and get > 8000 weekly income. Get a lot of huscarls and the sharpshooters become useless since huscarls round shield can take lot of bolts. And the sergeants are no match for them.
Y u necro this
Morkonan 2019년 8월 15일 오전 8시 00분 
Summer Fish님이 먼저 게시:
...Y u necro this

It's the yearly necro of this thread... probably. This thread gets necro'd so often that's achieved it's own undead status. It can't die, now. Only a Modgod could hope to kill it.

Nords rule, btw...

:)

PS - Ah... It seems Rodrigo is a professional Necromancer, given the ancient "Who's better" threads he's resurrecting. Nords still rule, tho...
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Security Cam #7 2019년 8월 15일 오전 9시 39분 
Morkonan님이 먼저 게시:
Nords rule, btw...
*player has joined the server*
Not anymore >:)
Morkonan 2019년 8월 15일 오후 1시 31분 
Summer Fish님이 먼저 게시:
Morkonan님이 먼저 게시:
Nords rule, btw...
*player has joined the server*
Not anymore >:)

"U wot, m8? Oi!"

<mumbles some more heavily accented threatening British'ish wordstuffs to make it sound like a Medieval Setting>

Roight! I'll ha' ye arm f'that!"
Littlejon_LJ 2019년 8월 15일 오후 3시 36분 
My crew is best defense! Hell hath no fury like Ymira scorned.
be back 2020
Rose 2019년 8월 15일 오후 4시 05분 
Oh finally the yearly Necro😂
MarshallTheWhite 2019년 8월 15일 오후 7시 34분 
why is this years old thread suddenly getting so much action?
Morkonan 2019년 8월 16일 오전 6시 35분 
MarshallTheWhite님이 먼저 게시:
why is this years old thread suddenly getting so much action?

I dunno, but it'll be old enough to buy beer by the time Bannerlord comes out.
MarshallTheWhite 2019년 8월 16일 오전 7시 27분 
lmao it might be old enough to run for the Senate, if we're being honest
Booba 2019년 8월 16일 오전 11시 59분 
Morkonan님이 먼저 게시:
MarshallTheWhite님이 먼저 게시:
why is this years old thread suddenly getting so much action?

I dunno, but it'll be old enough to buy beer by the time Bannerlord comes out.
Let's make the Warband forum a cesspit of Bannerlord butthurt too.
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