Easy way to take a castle?

[DonKain]

I've been trying for quite some time to get a castle from the Rhodoks and Nords but when i'm in the process of building a tower or whatever, they come back with groups of 200 people againts my 85 men, and of course, i get blasted. I did got a castle from the nords once, but they took it back almost immediately.

Any tips? Weak castles?

[Happyscientist]

summon your vassals or git gud.

[JtDarth]

İlk olarak Sleeping Bag tarafından gönderildi:

Places that have siege ladders are easiest, also a good amount of points into the 'Engineering' skill really helps.

Make sure to have a good amount of decent archers and have them take out the enemies on the walls first, then send in your infantry (also should be decent).

Have the archers placed in front of the ladders and have the infantry stand a liitle bit back to take less damage.

Rhodoks have some of the hardest castles to take because their archers are so good, maybe try to take a Swadian one (just my opinion).

Hope this helped :)

You can also substitute infantry for Swadian heavy cavalry or Sarranid heavy cav if you have the money and can stand the normal siege losses.

[Sunseaflower]

..that's a job for jabberwocky.

https://youtu.be/ntVF3OJmX6I

[Father Ribs]

If you're talking warband and you're using Floris, slavers are the best troops for attacking castles. With their large shields they don't get killed before they reach the walls, and their massive hammers hit hard.

In all honesty, capturing a castle when you aren't a vassal of another kingdom means everyone is going to attack you and you will not last long with a small army (80 men is very small unless they're top tier troops). Better to take your time and get involved in sieges with your fellow lords and petition your king for a castle or town.

[JtDarth]

İlk olarak Father Ribs tarafından gönderildi:

If you're talking warband and you're using Floris, slavers are the best troops for attacking castles. With their large shields they don't get killed before they reach the walls, and their massive hammers hit hard.

In all honesty, capturing a castle when you aren't a vassal of another kingdom means everyone is going to attack you and you will not last long with a small army (80 men is very small unless they're top tier troops). Better to take your time and get involved in sieges with your fellow lords and petition your king for a castle or town.

Not if your RTR is at least 25-30. At that point, most factions won't just immediately declare war on you. If your RTR is at 35 or higher, the chances of a gangup are very low unless you took a castle bordering multiple (as in, shares a border with 2) nations first, which you should never do as your first castle.
Ideally, when rolling solo, you would take a khergit castle near the edge of khergit territory (since khergits are absolutely terrible in sieges), and then quickly blitz the neighboring nations for a ton of recruits from nearby villages in order to quickly form a numbers garrison. It also helps to wreck and then capture a bunch of enemy lords first, and to attack while they are already at war with someone else, both of which heavily reduce the amount of resources they have to throw at you.

[DonKain]

So far i made a little bit of progress by taking DarthNachoz advice. I took the asugan castle from the khergits. However, they constantly keep coming back to loot the village near by and every faction in calradia has declared war on my kingdom. Currently i'm going incognito recruiting men in order to make my army bigger (since i left all of my men in my castle in order to protect it)

[JtDarth]

İlk olarak DonKain tarafından gönderildi:

So far i made a little bit of progress by taking DarthNachoz advice. I took the asugan castle from the khergits. However, they constantly keep coming back to loot the village near by and every faction in calradia has declared war on my kingdom. Currently i'm going incognito recruiting men in order to make my army bigger (since i left all of my men in my castle in order to protect it)

What is your right to rule at? Generally speaking, if you skip the faction member stage you need to have hired the majority of the companions and sent them on the right to rule mission prior to starting your own faction. Having high renown also helps.

[DonKain]

İlk olarak DarthNachoz tarafından gönderildi:

İlk olarak DonKain tarafından gönderildi:

So far i made a little bit of progress by taking DarthNachoz advice. I took the asugan castle from the khergits. However, they constantly keep coming back to loot the village near by and every faction in calradia has declared war on my kingdom. Currently i'm going incognito recruiting men in order to make my army bigger (since i left all of my men in my castle in order to protect it)

What is your right to rule at? Generally speaking, if you skip the faction member stage you need to have hired the majority of the companions and sent them on the right to rule mission prior to starting your own faction. Having high renown also helps.

I think my renown is like 550 or something like that. I'll check my right to rule tomorrow.

[ChairSupp0rt]

This is not a tip, just how I did it. Others might have other tips that might be more helpful or not.

Got myself 4 heros with average melee and ranged skills, but at least 2 of them maxed out on all three healing skills, as well as engineering, tactics, and pathfinding. The rest are all sword sisters with helmets and crossbows. Less than 100 in number and around 15 in actual battle. Took on waves of attack trying to take back their castle, each with at least 200+ in battle per wave, did not lose anyone on my side, works against any attacking group even with a total force number of 1K+.

This method probably will also work with any other heavily armored with shield and ranged attack. That said, only one or two other units have that ability. If you split your forces into melee line and ranged line, you will have half as many bolts or arrows. Sword sisters are also a lot cheaper than most other heavily armored units in upkeep. Upkeep of 100 of them at lv3 leadership costs only 3400. They are also mounted with the fastest horses and can come with crossbow.

Have your forces in 2 or 3 lines, a few lines away from a chokepoint on the wall, but not being shot at nor having targets to shoot at until someone is at the choke point. You should mow most of them down in each wave, especially the heavies, before you are out of bolts. Since everyone on your side have plate armor, when you are out of bolts, you still do not have to worry. Just distract their lords/counts/leaders/generals and everything will sort itself out without you doing any heavy lifting.

Using this method, you as the main character can be anywhere, however if you are near the chokepoint with your shield up, they will usually turn around facing you and have their backs facing the incoming bolts, saves more bolts per target this way.

This method also works at taking castles, only this time, the chokepoint is at the top of the ladder, and you should form 1 line right around the ground holding the ladder. Firstly have your heavy ranged move up to form that 1 line, without firing and only shield up. After the line is formed, anyone poking their head out will be swiftly met with multiple bolts. Goes up the ladder and takes the castle when your side is out of bolts, or exit and rinse & repeat until when you want to take the castle.

There are two ways to get sword sisters with nothing but helmets and crossbows. Will expand more if anyone is interested. They are also quite easy to obtail and train up, by killing raiding roamers with female peasants. Also killing raiding roamers is the fastest way to make money, this includes selling the gears from dead raiding groups. Even with gambling by joining the games, betting and winning every single round, one still net around 4K max, and they are held once a while in a town somewhere.

The way I did it is save the first 5~10 female peasants and train them up. With trainer skill and having them stay well back, this takes no time at all. Buys every single one of the most profitable shops and max all the relationships with the trading towns with shops. Buys the best gear and saves more peasants. After that, just pick any place you want to take over, and max out on all the town/castle/villiage upgrades. It helps to start off with a places away from the center of the map or the borders with other nations, places where the ownership changes hand often.

Add one of the two heavy cav when ready. If your income steam is less than upkeep, you will have to find money to field those upkeep. Else just sit back and watch your spending fund grow.

Played as my own ruler, unless I need a king or queen for an achievement. Less drama, politics, errands, and wasted time and resources this way.

Going to ignore points from a certain someone because I have wasted enough time with him, with him being unwilling to even address any of the points raised except make up BS.

[Commissar Socks]

Well, If you get a good amount of Honor and get alright renown before capturing a castle it should be fine. I got a bunch by helping farmers and not taking reward, as well as never capturing lords, Always letting them go. I stole a castle from the nords while they were losing SUPER hard to the veigirs and Swadians.
Nobody else has objected because I would help the swadians and the Vagirs in skirmishes.
Now the vikings have no capital, only a few stronghold castles. IT's great.

[JtDarth]

İlk olarak PrinceBitterbatter tarafından gönderildi:

Well, If you get a good amount of Honor and get alright renown before capturing a castle it should be fine. I got a bunch by helping farmers and not taking reward, as well as never capturing lords, Always letting them go. I stole a castle from the nords while they were losing SUPER hard to the veigirs and Swadians.
Nobody else has objected because I would help the swadians and the Vagirs in skirmishes.
Now the vikings have no capital, only a few stronghold castles. IT's great.

Dude. Check the dates before posting. last post was from august of 2016. The only thing you did was spam people's alerts.

[Turosteel]

Darn alert is spammed again...

[Morkonan]

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...Dude. Check the dates before posting. last post was from august of 2016. The only thing you did was spam people's alerts.

Do people actually subscribe to threads they didn't actually start themselves?

... Why?

[JtDarth]

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İlk olarak JtDarth tarafından gönderildi:

...Dude. Check the dates before posting. last post was from august of 2016. The only thing you did was spam people's alerts.

Do people actually subscribe to threads they didn't actually start themselves?

... Why?

Because sometimes actual conversation and debate is going on, and it's a pain to go back and manually unsubscribe. Most people also have the decency to not necro posts that are years old.

[SereneK]

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Because sometimes actual conversation and debate is going on, and it's a pain to go back and manually unsubscribe. Most people also have the decency to not necro posts that are years old.

Their problem. Unsubscribing from a thread is easy.

Necro'ing posts prevents unneccessary creation of new threads and they can build on discussion that already took place.