My own vassals hate me?

[♥ Alura ♥]

Hello guys I recently created my own kingdom and hired 2 vassals but they relations toward me are dropping..? Is this bug or it is because they don't have fiefs or what is wrong??
(At the beggining one of them had relations with me 0 another week -7 and another week -14)

[Cpt. Nemo]

Did you give them fiefs yet?

[godsblade]

Well most (if not all) vassals join to get fiefs or so, so unless the lords tend to be honourable/good-natured/upstanding they will show higher concern towards not being rewarded/having any fiefs. So yes as you said it would most likely be related to how you haven't given them any fiefs so far. Since their relationship with you is already in the negatives I would just give them a village simply for the purpose of collecting troops so you can use them during wartime or as patrols against bandits, I wouldn't bother giving them any fiefs like a castle or town because it is likely that they would then rebel against you being already quite low in relationship and take the castle/town with them.
It'd be best to accept someone you already have a high relationship with and give him a fief. Another alternative is to accept family members as your relationship with them when you give fiefs to their relatives won't deteriorate as badly (sometimes it doesn't affect you at all) and they may favour their relatives when you choose to award a fief to one of your lords which is in favour of your relationship with them.

[VAN]

I recommend that you shouldn't have received exiles turned to you when your camp was just founded.
As a rule of thumb,the exiles act disloyal to players.
better to enfeoff field to NPC in your troop,like Alayen.

[AWACS]

Vassals only real source of income is property. Unlike the player, they don't really trade, they don't really ransom every soldier ever, and they don't really sell loot. I mean, who knows, they might, but probably not, because no fief means they won't have any troops, and they'll be constantly defeated, making the kingdom's stability low, and meaning the vassals will be restless and disgruntled, and will probably leave you.

[♥ Alura ♥]

Ok thank you guys for help :) I guess I will have to get rid of one of my vassals because I have only 1 village (in my kingdom) so :D anyway how many fiefs they need ? Will they be happy with one fief or later will be angry because they want another ?

[VAN]

Originally posted by S3M1:

Ok thank you guys for help :) I guess I will have to get rid of one of my vassals because I have only 1 village (in my kingdom) so :D anyway how many fiefs they need ? Will they be happy with one fief or later will be angry because they want another ?

well,a vassal will get jealous when you enfeoff one fief to another lord,especially they are not on good terms.

[♥ Alura ♥]

ok thanks :)

[Cpt. Nemo]

Caba'drin has some really good guidelines here [forums.taleworlds.com]

[smash for cash]

go to tavin and tell the bar keep to give a baral of beer to the town

[Cpt. Nemo]

Originally posted by smash for cash:

go to tavin and tell the bar keep to give a baral of beer to the town

That has nothing to do with lord relationships.

[Shenji]

Originally posted by S3M1:

Hello guys I recently created my own kingdom and hired 2 vassals but they relations toward me are dropping..? Is this bug or it is because they don't have fiefs or what is wrong??
(At the beggining one of them had relations with me 0 another week -7 and another week -14)

Also, it's quite possible the personality conflicting. If you are good nature (high honor rating), then those two are bad/worse (lowlife b*tards), or vice versa.
If so, then these two (and other similar guys who served in your throne) will constantly lose their loyalty to you. No matter how much fief you bribed, or how many boots you licked. Just declare them treason and confiscate their fief, before it's too late.
Only if there is a way to check the other people's honor rating before you decide, but no, dev don't like you mere players feel easy and comfortable.

[Tuidjy]

Originally posted by Shenji:

Only if there is a way to check the other people's honor rating before you decide, but no, dev don't like you mere players feel easy and comfortable.

When you are persuading a nobleman to join you, the way they answer "How do you feel about kings, responsibilities, justice, etc..." question tells you their personality.

If they are showing up in your court to join you... well, you have fewer options. Many mods have personalities listed in the character sheet, if you have met them and talked to them, or if you have questioned other nobles/minstrels/relatives/serfs/guildmasters about them. Native lists rumors and complaints, but not the personality they reveal.

If you have not revealed the personality, and you have really high honor, you can often tell by how much they like you. If they are at 100, they are saints (upstanding and benevolent) because they love you for your honor. If they are -3 and below, they are аssноlеs (sadistic, quarrelsome, debauched) If they are mildly positive, they are probably wise аssеs (cunning and martial) because those like you for releasing them after capturing them in battle.

This above is not fool proof. If you quest for аssноlеs, or help them in battle, or join them in assault, or you release them from jail, etc... they may get positive, and deceive you. So either make a note when you get a boost with an аsshоlе (you can tell, because they start at -3) or just stay on the safe side, and do not help them at all.

In any case, you should never, even give anything but villages to аsshоlеs, and then use them until they quit on their own. They cannot take the villages with them. Do not mistreat them, though. Do clearly wrong things to them (side against them in quarrels, keep them landless, accuse them of treason) and even wise аssеs and saints will disapprove.