Are Huscarls overrated?

[Readynailer]

My Huscarls got destroyed in a siege against mamelukes . THere were no archers etc , took them all out beforehand. So ive got two questions. Are Mamelukes the best units for siege defense? Are Huscarls overrated?

[Hat8]

Huscarls are the best melee infantry in the game for attack and defense. They cost a fortune though.

Every faction has a speciality and excellent melee infantry is what the Nords get. The Sarranids have no specialization, just well rounded units.

[Readynailer]

Can you possibly say why the Huscarls got beaten in this particular siege?

[Cato]

I would not say that BUT bear in mind Mamelukes have maces that do damage though sheilds or at least guardcrush - blunt damage is one of those damge types that partially ignores armour.

See Huscarls are really the best infantry, BUT they have short range weapons which means sometimes they get beaten by troops with longer weapons - also how many did you have?

[BobbyDisastrous]

Originally posted by LeadenLocust(GoozleWoozle):

Can you possibly say why the Huscarls got beaten in this particular siege?

Mamelukes do not carry swords/axes etc. They have maces and can destroy any kind of shield easy. That is probably what happened and then your Huscarls got massacred.

[Cato]

^ for example they sometimes lose to Vaegir guards of all things

[Readynailer]

it was probably 36 huscarls and the rest was composed of veteran nord and rhodok sharshooters.
Youre all probably right. With the longer weapons that deal blunt demage my huscalrs were outranged.

[Hat8]

Originally posted by Cato:

^ for example they sometimes lose to Vaegir guards of all things

Vaegir guards are excellent infantry. Great offense, weak defense.

[Perfect Hatred]

Stats for each unit type vary on a game by game basis. It's possible that when all of the stats were rolled when you started the game that Huscarls had particularly bad RNG and that Mamelukes had particularly good RNG. You'd need to check the troops' actual stats by talking to them in-game to find out what they are.

[Readynailer]

Originally posted by 10 1001 1110 1 10010 11001:

Stats for each unit type vary on a game by game basis. It's possible that when all of the stats were rolled when you started the game that Huscarls had particularly bad RNG and that Mamelukes had particularly good RNG. You'd need to check the troops' actual stats by talking to them in-game to find out what they are.

Since when are stats rolled randomly , wouldnt that make the wiki for mount and blade useless?

[Cato]

Originally posted by LeadenLocust(GoozleWoozle):

it was probably 36 huscarls and the rest was composed of veteran nord and rhodok sharshooters.
Youre all probably right. With the longer weapons that deal blunt demage my huscalrs were outranged.

excellent army needed more tho

[Readynailer]

Originally posted by Cato:

Originally posted by LeadenLocust(GoozleWoozle):

it was probably 36 huscarls and the rest was composed of veteran nord and rhodok sharshooters.
Youre all probably right. With the longer weapons that deal blunt demage my huscalrs were outranged.

excellent army needed more tho

Yeah you cant have enough of them

[Tuidjy]

Are Huscarls overrated?

No. They are the best general purpose infantry. Of course, that does not mean that they are the best infantry for all situations. There are times when you want blunt weapons (Sarranids), or long spears (Rhodocks) or two handers (Vaegirs)

My Huscarls got destroyed in a siege against mamelukes

Some of the Sarranid castles have really viscious bottlenecks. There is one where five Vaegir guards once held against ninety Khergits, holding them and cutting them down while Deshavi and my character were shooting in their backs.

In at least two castles, the top of the ladder really favors long weapons. And when the weapons are blunt, armor helps a lot less.

It's possible that when all of the stats were rolled when you started the game that Huscarls had particularly bad RNG and that Mamelukes had particularly good RNG. You'd need to check the troops' actual stats by talking to them in-game to find out what they are.

Since when are stats rolled randomly , wouldnt that make the wiki for mount and blade useless?

Since forever. At the beginning of every game, all weapon proficiencies get a small bonus. I think it is less than 20 in Native, but it still makes a bit of a difference.

[Hat8]

Your starting bonuses are decided by your decisions on your character's childhood and career.

[Tuidjy]

Originally posted by Neko Koneco:

Your starting bonuses are decided by your decisions on your character's childhood and career.

Yes. Troop proficiency bonuses are random, though.

[Adahn (´ ᴥ `)]

36 huscarls and you're wondering why you lost?