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Eisen Mar 17, 2020 @ 5:51pm
Which Game of Thrones mod is the best?
Which one do you prefer as of 2020 and why?´I only find posts from 2017 discussing this and back then one of the mods wasn't even nearly done.
Originally posted by Tuidjy:
Originally posted by Iron:
Originally posted by Tuidjy:
The ♥♥♥ is utter sнiт. AWoIaF has redeeming qualities, and can actually be played as a Warband game.
Why is Clash of Kings bad?
The ♥♥♥ is bad because it simply does not work. At least, it did not work the last three times I gave it a honest try, and I am not going to try again. Here is what I wrote an year or so ago, when I tried it last:

I have no idea who the creators of the other mod are, and I am certainly not motivated by them, but in my opinion, the ♥♥♥ is not worth playing, at all. It's broken beyond repair. Nice to look at, but not even close to a good Warband experience.

Poorly modeled weapons, whole troop lines that are functionally useless, bad map nodes, broken lord A.I., nonsensical damage model, broken diplomacy, a ton of exploits, unearned, overly powerful rewards for trivial tasks, frustrating random events, hanging triggers, imported mods without understanding of what makes them work.

The ♥♥♥ is a piece of sнit. The other mod, whatever of fire and ice, is at least playable. Neither is really top ten material, in my opinion, although if you forced me to choose, I'd at least try playing the fire&ice.


Considering what a piece of work the developer is, I doubt the ♥♥♥ has changed for the better.

And what are Awoiaf redeeming qualities?
Challenge, for one. It's hard, but not impossible if you are coming to it after playing The Last Days as an orc, as I was. (It was before the recent improvements to the Northern goblins)

There are also a lot of interesting mechanics, and they are actually working, as opposed to the ones in the ♥♥♥. Balance is messed up, because the player is indeed stupidly underpowered. But.. just imagine you are a prisoner who has just been released after spending a few years in an oubliette. You get tough enough soon enough.
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Multifaced Mar 18, 2020 @ 12:03am 
also interested to know, as it would likely be one to play in the future
MinenSpecht Mar 18, 2020 @ 2:44am 
I just tried AWOIAF last week and gave up. Its so hard. Pendor feels like native comapred to it.
Multifaced Mar 18, 2020 @ 5:09am 
what was so hard about it?
MinenSpecht Mar 18, 2020 @ 6:10am 
I started a brand new character so this may not occur with imported high level characters:

- you cant recuit in villages if your renown is lower than 100(? could have been 50). I started with -50

- troops have generally a high level (7-15 at tier 1) and high proficiencies. The first time i trained a village to defend itself that first peasant clubbed me to death in seconds. They block faster than you, hit faster than you and are overall better even with the horrible AI. The only workaround for me was getting a Florett in Braavos which is a sword with 140 speed

- Therefore training troops to a higher tier is only possible with high level characters. Tier 3 units are level 30+

- enemies come in big groups of 50+. combine that with the high proficiencies and you will have a tough time. I bought a bow and 2 quivers to be able to kill simple looters.. And I sticked to looters because every other enemy has shields.Tried killing them some other way but it was impossible for me.

- bandit spawns are ignored by the NPCs which makes them come for you only. Also there are tier 6 groups of robber knights in 2 regions (basically half the map) which will hunt only for you. There is no way escaping them than hiding in a city because of their OP speed.

- nightwalkers can only be hurt by valyrian steel, fire arrows and obsidian arrows. So you need tier 5 nightwatch troops to face them. Getting those weapons for you seems like a big struggle.

- speaking of nightwalkers.. they run fast like horses with 36 horse speed :D

- It seems that a lot of troops is highly specialised. Pirates look weak at first but in close quartes they just mow down everything with their low reach high speed weapons. Even knights. So if you prefer starting on the other end of the world you will have to adapt. Basically the learning curve in this one is on a completely different level.

Heres the good news. If you want to get rich wait for 10 days so the markets stabilize, go to the north or nightwatch and buy furs. Sell them to Kings Landing or the riverlands and buy salt from the riverlands on your way back.

This way you will be at least able to buy some better troops in bars and some equip.
Last edited by MinenSpecht; Mar 18, 2020 @ 6:13am
Eisen Mar 18, 2020 @ 6:22am 
So basically, the Westeros version 7.1 is better
MinenSpecht Mar 18, 2020 @ 7:26am 
I dont know that one. Only AWOIAF (A World of Ice and Fire) and ACOK (A Clash of Kings) come to my mind.
Last edited by MinenSpecht; Mar 18, 2020 @ 7:26am
Eisen Mar 18, 2020 @ 7:58am 
Originally posted by MinenSpecht:
I dont know that one. Only AWOIAF (A World of Ice and Fire) and ACOK (A Clash of Kings) come to my mind.
Yeah, a clash of kings I mean. 7.1
Tuidjy Mar 18, 2020 @ 8:06am 
The ♥♥♥ is utter sнiт. AWoIaF has redeeming qualities, and can actually be played as a Warband game.
Eisen Mar 18, 2020 @ 8:07am 
Originally posted by Tuidjy:
The ♥♥♥ is utter sнiт. AWoIaF has redeeming qualities, and can actually be played as a Warband game.

Why is Clash of Kings bad? And what are Awoiaf redeeming qualities?
The author of this thread has indicated that this post answers the original topic.
Tuidjy Mar 18, 2020 @ 8:37am 
Originally posted by Iron:
Originally posted by Tuidjy:
The ♥♥♥ is utter sнiт. AWoIaF has redeeming qualities, and can actually be played as a Warband game.
Why is Clash of Kings bad?
The ♥♥♥ is bad because it simply does not work. At least, it did not work the last three times I gave it a honest try, and I am not going to try again. Here is what I wrote an year or so ago, when I tried it last:

I have no idea who the creators of the other mod are, and I am certainly not motivated by them, but in my opinion, the ♥♥♥ is not worth playing, at all. It's broken beyond repair. Nice to look at, but not even close to a good Warband experience.

Poorly modeled weapons, whole troop lines that are functionally useless, bad map nodes, broken lord A.I., nonsensical damage model, broken diplomacy, a ton of exploits, unearned, overly powerful rewards for trivial tasks, frustrating random events, hanging triggers, imported mods without understanding of what makes them work.

The ♥♥♥ is a piece of sнit. The other mod, whatever of fire and ice, is at least playable. Neither is really top ten material, in my opinion, although if you forced me to choose, I'd at least try playing the fire&ice.


Considering what a piece of work the developer is, I doubt the ♥♥♥ has changed for the better.

And what are Awoiaf redeeming qualities?
Challenge, for one. It's hard, but not impossible if you are coming to it after playing The Last Days as an orc, as I was. (It was before the recent improvements to the Northern goblins)

There are also a lot of interesting mechanics, and they are actually working, as opposed to the ones in the ♥♥♥. Balance is messed up, because the player is indeed stupidly underpowered. But.. just imagine you are a prisoner who has just been released after spending a few years in an oubliette. You get tough enough soon enough.
Last edited by Tuidjy; Mar 18, 2020 @ 8:50am
MinenSpecht Mar 18, 2020 @ 1:27pm 
I think if you manage to grind yourself to lvl 30 quickly and disable the hilarious wound mechanics and morale mechanics AWOIAF can be entertaining. Still its a rough grind compared to other mods.

Edit: I forgot to mention that all enemies target your head. So prepare to be onehit headshotted which will almost always result in a wound that has to be treated by a maester or healer companion.
Last edited by MinenSpecht; Mar 18, 2020 @ 1:28pm
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