How do i convice this guy to let me marry his daughter

[Sigmar]

I have pretty high relations with him , around 15. When i ask him for his daughters hand he says some other dude is looking for her as well and he is a "finer catch". but i have more renown than the other guy? do i need a higher relationship with the father or what?

[Casualman112013]

a few things here:
a) you need a much higher relation than 15,
b) you need more fiefs/renown than the other goys
c) duel the other goys in order to remove any competition.
d) get a good relation with the daughter as well, some ai dads may take that into account, and it doesnt hurt much, either.
got all that?

[Sigmar]

Originally posted by Casualman112013:

a few things here:
a) you need a much higher relation than 15,
b) you need more fiefs/renown than the other goys
c) duel the other goys in order to remove any competition.
d) get a good relation with the daughter as well, some ai dads may take that into account, and it doesnt hurt much, either.
got all that?

i ahve more renown than the competitor, but i got no fiefs since i lost the only one i had when another faction captured it. I have a castle though. I have a good relationship with the woman (23). I didnt really see an option to challenge the other guy to a duel, how do i do that?
btw my relationship with the father is now 32

[psychotron666]

>high relations
>15
Lol

[psychotron666]

100 is max relation, 0 is neutral, and -100 is max hated.

You're not "high" relations until you're well above 50

[HacaPotato]

Originally posted by Cole Phelps:

Originally posted by Casualman112013:

a few things here:
a) you need a much higher relation than 15,
b) you need more fiefs/renown than the other goys
c) duel the other goys in order to remove any competition.
d) get a good relation with the daughter as well, some ai dads may take that into account, and it doesnt hurt much, either.
got all that?

i ahve more renown than the competitor, but i got no fiefs since i lost the only one i had when another faction captured it. I have a castle though. I have a good relationship with the woman (23). I didnt really see an option to challenge the other guy to a duel, how do i do that?
btw my relationship with the father is now 32

A castle is a fief.

[Jacket]

keep near the father alot and when you next capture an enemy castle or whatever you should ask him who he thinks should get it and always support whoever he says it gives you relationship. I got the daughter up to 20 relationship and later kept supporting the father and helping him out in combat so he would love me and at roughly 15 relationship he agreed to let me marry her. Though he did ask for 11k so we could be well off after the marriage so not something you can do easily and you only get 30 days to pay him. I recommend grinding tournies and placing max bets on yourself.

[Jacket]

something to note though is that many fathers are hard to convince soooo you could google the father in particular to see what he likes and dislikes.

[terror923]

Originally posted by Perfect Soldier:

keep near the father alot and when you next capture an enemy castle or whatever you should ask him who he thinks should get it and always support whoever he says it gives you relationship. I got the daughter up to 20 relationship and later kept supporting the father and helping him out in combat so he would love me and at roughly 15 relationship he agreed to let me marry her. Though he did ask for 11k so we could be well off after the marriage so not something you can do easily and you only get 30 days to pay him. I recommend grinding tournies and placing max bets on yourself.

you also can follow the father around everywhere and wait till hes in a fight to jump in, at the end of the fight you get 2-5 more relation with him.

for marrying fiefs usually dont matter too much if there is no competition, when you marry the wife will stay in the fathers castle.
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i usually become friends with the father first (60-70 rep), then become friends with whoever your are courting until 20-30 or until they agree to marry you when you ask them, asking them usually wont lower the rep at all (in most cases).

KEEP IN MIND ASK THE FATHER IF YOU CAN COURT HIS DAUGHTER BEFORE YOU GIVE ANY AFFECTION TO HER.

some fathers will outright disown you if you court the daughter without his permission.

[Sigmar]

i challenged the nother ugy to a duel and she is mine now thanks for the replies.

[Chad "The King" ThunderCuck]

Originally posted by terror923:

Originally posted by Perfect Soldier:

keep near the father alot and when you next capture an enemy castle or whatever you should ask him who he thinks should get it and always support whoever he says it gives you relationship. I got the daughter up to 20 relationship and later kept supporting the father and helping him out in combat so he would love me and at roughly 15 relationship he agreed to let me marry her. Though he did ask for 11k so we could be well off after the marriage so not something you can do easily and you only get 30 days to pay him. I recommend grinding tournies and placing max bets on yourself.

you also can follow the father around everywhere and wait till hes in a fight to jump in, at the end of the fight you get 2-5 more relation with him.

for marrying fiefs usually dont matter too much if there is no competition, when you marry the wife will stay in the fathers castle.
----
i usually become friends with the father first (60-70 rep), then become friends with whoever your are courting until 20-30 or until they agree to marry you when you ask them, asking them usually wont lower the rep at all (in most cases).

KEEP IN MIND ASK THE FATHER IF YOU CAN COURT HIS DAUGHTER BEFORE YOU GIVE ANY AFFECTION TO HER.

some fathers will outright disown you if you court the daughter without his permission.

ive had entire families just start hunting me across the map 24/7 from eloping once. she had 2 or 3 brothers and a king father, and they all dropped everything they were doing to spend all their time chasing me around.

[SereneK]

Originally posted by terror923:

KEEP IN MIND ASK THE FATHER IF YOU CAN COURT HIS DAUGHTER BEFORE YOU GIVE ANY AFFECTION TO HER.

some fathers will outright disown you if you court the daughter without his permission.

I have almost 60 relationship with a Vaegir princess and single digit relationship with her father.
It started when I accidentally proclaimed myself an admirer while dedicating tournaments.
After that I began seeing her regularly and she seems happy so I don't feel like breaking it off.
Still, I whacked another lord (who always disliked me ever since I refused to assassinate some merchant for him) for getting betrothed to her, even though I'm still a Swadian merc.

I do feel that I'm leading her on even though I have every intention to marry her once I set up a kingdom or get lorded, whichever comes first.
So if a nice lord gets betrothed I'll sit back and let the marriage happen. If it's one of the losers with 40 men in their party, time to find a skald...

[Tuidjy]

Originally posted by SereneK:

I do feel that I'm leading her on even though I have every intention to marry her once I set up a kingdom or get lorded, whichever comes first.

Why do you feel that you are leading on? Next time there is a suitor, become a vassal to the Vaegirs, just so that you can get married.

Yeah, it may complicate your future plans, but love is worth the sacrifice, right?

As for the father and his relatives, either befriend him, or thumb your nose at him. The value of the marriage is 99% in the wife, losing the relationship boost with her family and the right to rule is minor in comparison.

[SereneK]

Originally posted by Tuidjy:

Why do you feel that you are leading on? Next time there is a suitor, become a vassal to the Vaegirs, just so that you can get married.

Yeah, it may complicate your future plans, but love is worth the sacrifice, right?

As for the father and his relatives, either befriend him, or thumb your nose at him. The value of the marriage is 99% in the wife, losing the relationship boost with her family and the right to rule is minor in comparison.

Because I don't become lord unless the faction is dying. Which in this case, the Vaegirs are thriving. They own their three starting towns, are invading Nord territory and have taken fookin' Dhirim. If I help them the faction becomes a behemoth.

Maybe it's perception, but I find that the faction the player joins tends to do better than the rest.
I need to protect Praven and Suno from the Rhodok infestation, otherwise Swadia will fold and my men will be sieging Crossbowmen for the rest of the game.

I'm actually hoping the Khergit horde washes over Khudan and Rivacheg, then I have an excuse to become a Vaegir lord. But the Khergs are too busy kidnapping Sarranid lords.

I need to maintain the status quo while I build r/ship with lords and settlements. So, love is worth some sacrifices but...the thought of fighting more Rhodoks in castles is just...*Brrr*

[Cool Breeze]

Originally posted by SereneK:

I do feel that I'm leading her on even though I have every intention to marry her once I set up a kingdom or get lorded, whichever comes first.
So if a nice lord gets betrothed I'll sit back and let the marriage happen. If it's one of the losers with 40 men in their party, time to find a skald...

This is the exact opposite of what I did lmao! I accidently proclaimed my affection to a girl while dedicating tournaments as well and she went to +50 with me. Decided I would marry her on the spot but her dad was like "I don't know you so lets wait a while." Queue 7 month long war (I should mention that I was a lord of a different faction at the time) where in I destroy her fathers faction in hopes that he joins mine. Nope. Joins a different one, one that promptly declares war on my faction. Queue year long war with said second faction. All this time the lady is asking me to come and visit her, so I have to trek through all the hostile lords, battle my way into her castle because literally every person in the world knows me (my renown is sitting at like... 7,000 or so) and then with the fresh blood of her guards dripping off my sword I proceed to woo her with poetry. Only to repeat the process again 2-4 weeks later. About 11 months into the war she tells me she has been betrothed to another lord and we need to call it off. I'm all "Now hold on a minute lets elope or something here, ♥♥♥♥♥ you got like +70 relationship with me" and she responds with "yeah but I am a good girl and I can't go against my family like that." So now I have to find her father, who apparently got captured and thrown in prison in one of my cities (I didn't capture him so I have no idea who did) release him and then hope the war ends so I can ask for her hand in marriage. Just when all hope was lost the war ends so I rush to her father and ask for her hand, fortunately I have been releasing him after battle every time, and I really targeted him ALOT, so he has like +40 relations with me and agrees to let me see her, so I promptly ask her to marry me instead. And thats how I got the ol' ball and chain. Who is incredibly useful and runs my fiefs for me.

[Tuidjy]

7000 renown? Which mod are you playing? Getting 7000 renown in Native is so hard as to be pretty much impossible.