My first bow ( Mongolian style recurve bow (65lbs)

[Legion Of Light]

So I've decided to buy a bow and start praticing ,i was tired of watching video of people shooting , i had to tried myself how it feel... i love it !


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FRdvYEl4aG8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SNFtQBPazyw&t=186s

[marda]

Looking good!

[Tuidjy]

That is some pretty impressive shooting, especially if the bow is really 65 pounds.

But there is no way this is your first time shooting a bow. My guess is that you have prior experience and about a week with this specific bow, or one like it. Yes, even with the appropriately chosen angle from which you are recording the shots.

And once again, this is good shooting. Although you are drawing like a Westerner, not like a steppe warrior :-) Look into thumb rings, you may like the draw.

[Legion Of Light]

Thx guys !

this is my 4 days shooting whit a bow , i look at alot of tutorial on youtube on traditional archery !

i do not know if im ganna be able to draw the bow only whit my thumb , most of the video that i looked on thumb release are bow around 25-35 lbs ..im realty having a hard tying to pull it back ..but pratice is the key :) anyway i think i just discover a new passion !

sorry for my poor english !

[Tuidjy]

Thumb draw most definitely works for very heavy bows. Many national traditions use it exclusively (Hungarian, Japanese, Mongol, Tatar, Turkish, etc.) and historically, those archers have used bows from 100 to 140 pounds. Of course, if you are using thumb draw without a thumb ring, you are asking for nerve damage - I'd do it once with a 50+ pound bow, and refuse a second shot if I do not have a ring with me.

I am not going to get into which draw is better in general. My grandfather taught me thumb draw, my first archery club absolutely forbid me from using it, in college I used thumb draw to draw attention, in Olympic style competitions it is forbidden, in my HEMA club I used three different draws to show the differences, and explain they all had advantages... and now I cannot really pull the one bow of mine that really benefits from thumb draw. Getting old sucks.

But there are a few situations in which thumb draw is definitely better. No ifs, no buts, just the objectively better:
1) If you are doing horse archery, the thumb draw allows you to keep the arrow on the right side of the bow, where you can keep it in place with your left hand. This allows you a lot more control, and a much wider range of positions from which to shoot.
2) If you are using a short bow with a long draw, the two limbs of the bow nearly touch at full draw. With a three finger Mediterranean draw, the string would bunch your fingers together.
3) If you want to get pin point precision from a bow with very heavy draw, the thumb ring is a mechanical aid that few people recognize as such. There is a reason they are forbidden in most competitions. But in love and war...
4) If you are doing a historical demonstration, using the wrong draw is really poor form.

Your bow's limbs do not come nearly as close as those of some traditional Turkish and Mongolian bows. So you can use Mediterranean draw without a concern. But if you buy a good thumb ring, and try the thumb draw, it may really work for you. Just make sure you read up on it, before you use it. The Turkish, Chinese, and Hungarian traditions are subtly different, and in my opinion come down on personal preference. I follow the Turkish one, but I call it Tatar (No disrespect to Turkish people, it's just it was taught to me by a Tatar)

But there are a few things you should definitely do:
1) Never forgo the ring, even if you do not feel you need it.
2) Do not rest on the tip of your thumb, use the second phalanx.
3) Do not use your index for extra strength until you get the release technique down.

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Eh, this is too long, and still not very informative. Google is your friend.

[Legion Of Light]

Originally posted by Tuidjy:

Thumb draw most definitely works for very heavy bows. Many national traditions use it exclusively (Hungarian, Japanese, Mongol, Tatar, Turkish, etc.) and historically, those archers have used bows from 100 to 140 pounds. Of course, if you are using thumb draw without a thumb ring, you are asking for nerve damage - I'd do it once with a 50+ pound bow, and refuse a second shot if I do not have a ring with me.

I am not going to get into which draw is better in general. My grandfather taught me thumb draw, my first archery club absolutely forbid me from using it, in college I used thumb draw to draw attention, in Olympic style competitions it is forbidden, in my HEMA club I used three different draws to show the differences, and explain they all had advantages... and now I cannot really pull the one bow of mine that really benefits from thumb draw. Getting old sucks.

But there are a few situations in which thumb draw is definitely better. No ifs, no buts, just the objectively better:
1) If you are doing horse archery, the thumb draw allows you to keep the arrow on the right side of the bow, where you can keep it in place with your left hand. This allows you a lot more control, and a much wider range of positions from which to shoot.
2) If you are using a short bow with a long draw, the two limbs of the bow nearly touch at full draw. With a three finger Mediterranean draw, the string would bunch your fingers together.
3) If you want to get pin point precision from a bow with very heavy draw, the thumb ring is a mechanical aid that few people recognize as such. There is a reason they are forbidden in most competitions. But in love and war...
4) If you are doing a historical demonstration, using the wrong draw is really poor form.

Your bow's limbs do not come nearly as close as those of some traditional Turkish and Mongolian bows. So you can use Mediterranean draw without a concern. But if you buy a good thumb ring, and try the thumb draw, it may really work for you. Just make sure you read up on it, before you use it. The Turkish, Chinese, and Hungarian traditions are subtly different, and in my opinion come down on personal preference. I follow the Turkish one, but I call it Tatar (No disrespect to Turkish people, it's just it was taught to me by a Tatar)

But there are a few things you should definitely do:
1) Never forgo the ring, even if you do not feel you need it.
2) Do not rest on the tip of your thumb, use the second phalanx.
3) Do not use your index for extra strength until you get the release technique down.

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Eh, this is too long, and still not very informative. Google is your friend.

ok thx for the info brother , realy appreciate ! ..im ganna try to get a thumb ring this week if i can ! and start praticing !