Why do people hate me so bad?

[Anatoly Dyatlov]

when i first start out (without being a vassal) I tend to focus and ONLY mess with one specific facton. When i join a different faction most of the lords hates me the same goes with every other faction. Is this because of the honor system? I need someone to clarify.

[psychotron666]

Many reasons. Honour system if you're dishonourable, honourable people will hate you, if youre honourable, dishonourable people will hate you.

Also if you beat honourable people in battle and imprison them then they hate you more, if you let them go they like you. For dishonourable people, if you let them go they hate you even more than it you imprison them, so you're best off imprisoning them.

So usually I find all other honourable people of enemy factions end up loving me, so if I switch to that faction or start my own, I usually can count on them as allies

[Tacitus Killgore]

How are you even supposed to be honorable in Warband

[RandomDude]

Don't accept rewards for quests if given the option, release lords rather than take them prisoner. Don't loot or steal from villages - basically all the good, fun stuff is dishonourable.

[White Knight]

Originally posted by Alucard:

How are you even supposed to be honorable in Warband

Oh my, this is an interesting question.

But first, with regard to the original question, everybody hates you because the game was designed that way. I suspect a lot of people would be disappointed if every npc in the game was kind and friendly towards you. Since it's all about combat, the world is full of people who want to fight you and people you want to pick fights with.

As for honour, it's not so different than real life. Be honest, be helpful, be generous, be selfless (or something that approximates it if you insist such things aren't possible), be kind to strangers (until they prove they are not worthy of such considerations), help the weak and defenceless, don't mistreat women, etc.

Basically, do things our corrupt and selfish world considers "stoopid" and "boring".

There are plenty of excellent reasons (beyond the obvious) for being honourable in these games and those benefits are built right into the game itself. Beyond that, it's a role-playing thing.

[Twinkletoes]

Originally posted by White Knight:

Originally posted by Alucard:

How are you even supposed to be honorable in Warband

Oh my, this is an interesting question.

But first, with regard to your original question, everybody hates you because the game was designed that way. I suspect a lot of people would be disappointed if every npc in the game was kind and friendly towards you. Since it's all about combat, the world is full of people who want to fight you and people you want to pick fights with.

As for honour, it's not so different than real life. Be honest, be helpful, be generous, be selfless (or something that approximates it if you insist such things aren't possible), be kind to strangers (until they prove they are not worthy of such considerations), help the weak and defenceless, don't mistreat women, etc.

Basically, do things our corrupt and selfish world considers "stoopid" and "boring".

There are plenty of excellent reasons (beyond the obvious) for being honourable in these games and those benefits are built right into the game itself. Beyond that, it's a role-playing thing.

Is being honorable really that bad?

I though being DIS honorable was like hard mode, since you become friends with some of the most untrustworthy people in the faction. While the good guys hate your guts, and no one wants to join your band because you turned the entire faction into a giant bonfire.

Not trying to argue, just giving my 2 cents.

[White Knight]

Originally posted by Twinkletoes:

Is being honorable really that bad?

"That bad"? I don't get what you mean. It's not "bad" at all. It's extremely unpopular in a place like this, it's mocked and derided by losers and sociopaths. It's astonishingly popular amongst young and stupid people to consider words like "honour", "duty", or "sacrifice" to be nothing more than the punchlines of jokes.

I meet people every single day who think lying, cheating and stealing are commonplace things that "everyone else is doing". Being someone who tries to live his life by these values, I can assure you that even amongst nice people, these qualities are scoffed at and considered "old fashioned" at best. Doing the right thing does not get you riches and girls and fancy stuff...not in my world anyway.

Originally posted by Twinkletoes:

I though being DIS honorable was like hard mode...

That's an interesting point. It may well be harder to play as a dirtbag? I would just assume that this is a weak rationalization for anti-social behaviour. If it came from someone who had already beaten the game by playing like a Paladin, maybe it would be worth hearing about?

Personally, I don't really care all that much. It's a single player game, people can do whatever they like and good games give players the ability to make those choices for themselves. Since someone asked, I shared my thoughts on the matter.

[Anatoly Dyatlov]

Originally posted by psychotron666:

Many reasons. Honour system if you're dishonourable, honourable people will hate you, if youre honourable, dishonourable people will hate you.

Also if you beat honourable people in battle and imprison them then they hate you more, if you let them go they like you. For dishonourable people, if you let them go they hate you even more than it you imprison them, so you're best off imprisoning them.

So usually I find all other honourable people of enemy factions end up loving me, so if I switch to that faction or start my own, I usually can count on them as allies

so would people get even more mad at you for getting more dishornorable if they are allready are mad at you for being dishornorable? Because i allready know there is no turning back for me with -70 honor

[SapienChavez]

Originally posted by Alucard:

How are you even supposed to be honorable in Warband

-Help lords that are in combat. join the fight for theri side.

-Let lords you defeat go free. (this is also the best/fastest way to gain rep with lords)

-do not raid any villages. ever.

in my current game, I am well over 200 honour. ~250ish

[TrefanSVK]

Easiest way to gain honor is to refuse reward for killing the murderer fugitive hiding in village. Easy quest, not a big reward +3 honour. But you'll loose some relation points with the village, but helping them to raise them again mostly requires money.

[Twinkletoes]

Originally posted by TrefanSVK:

Easiest way to gain honor is to refuse reward for killing the murderer fugitive hiding in village. Easy quest, not a big reward +3 honour. But you'll loose some relation points with the village, but helping them to raise them again mostly requires money.

I though the easiest way was by winning tourny and releasing good lords.

[TrefanSVK]

Winning tourtnaments doesn't give any honor. Releasing any lord gives 3, but you can also get some nice money for them instead plus you need to beat them and capture them first so it's not the best way.

[Twinkletoes]

Originally posted by TrefanSVK:

Winning tourtnaments doesn't give any honor. Releasing any lord gives 3, but you can also get some nice money for them instead plus you need to beat them and capture them first so it's not the best way.

The tourny honor could be a mod thing.

But if we are talking unmodded by the time your facing lords you should have enough businesses to make money irrelevent.

And when that swings in full force you will be fighting lords ALOT.

Not saying your wrong, just saying that releasing lords is usually how I earn honor.

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[Esce]

Originally posted by (YeetYang) 났:

Originally posted by psychotron666:

Many reasons. Honour system if you're dishonourable, honourable people will hate you, if youre honourable, dishonourable people will hate you.

Also if you beat honourable people in battle and imprison them then they hate you more, if you let them go they like you. For dishonourable people, if you let them go they hate you even more than it you imprison them, so you're best off imprisoning them.

So usually I find all other honourable people of enemy factions end up loving me, so if I switch to that faction or start my own, I usually can count on them as allies

so would people get even more mad at you for getting more dishornorable if they are allready are mad at you for being dishornorable? Because i allready know there is no turning back for me with -70 honor

-70 is bad, but not something you can not fix, you need probably ~200 ingame days to fix it. Free lords from prision, let lords go after a battle (some lords hate you for doing so).
Kill bandits in villages and do not take the things the farmers offer you. Do not raid anything. If you have the quest to kill the nervous man, reject the money.

The biggest problem with low honor is that, when you are a king, nobody will make peace with you. I had a character in VC with -1100 honor, every faction was always in war with me, you do not want that, even in nativ.

[Elysion]

Originally posted by TrefanSVK:

But you'll loose some relation points with the village

If you knock them out instead of kill them you dont lose reputation with the villiage.
If you knock out instead of kill beligerant drunks you gain 1 faction with the city