Floris Evolved or Cadmus Floris Expansion

[Armando Broncas]

I played Floris Evolved and I didn't liked the change in graphics but I liked the overall game in general except when I found out the nerfed archery -.- no wonder my shots weren't hittin anything... still I would stick with it but I want to try Cadmus now...

So... whoever that has played both, what mod is the best?, supposedly Cadmus even changes Catles and towns to make no battle feel the same which sounds really cool, and un-nerfed archery.

[Thermal Lance]

I play only cadmus now. He also made polearms have less delay when attacking. WIch was causing a problem with the AI that couldnt use them correctly. He made a lot of One-Handed sword able to be used 2 handed too. But only those that makes sense like the english longsword and the likes. Added ton of weapons from native that were somehow absent too. He redisigned the sieges so it is more varied in setup.

A wonderful edition. But be careful with the bandit lords. These pricks can ruin a whole army by their sheer number if youre not careful. You can take them on but you need to lure part of it away from the main pack. Then attack the lord when the numbers are less insane.

Sincerely... I really love Cadmus... It's great.

[Armando Broncas]

Originally posted by Dashyr The Space Invader:

I play only cadmus now. He also made polearms have less delay when attacking. WIch was causing a problem with the AI that couldnt use them correctly. He made a lot of One-Handed sword able to be used 2 handed too. But only those that makes sense like the english longsword and the likes. Added ton of weapons from native that were somehow absent too. He redisigned the sieges so it is more varied in setup.

A wonderful edition. But be careful with the bandit lords. These pricks can ruin a whole army by their sheer number if youre not careful. You can take them on but you need to lure part of it away from the main pack. Then attack the lord when the numbers are less insane.

Sincerely... I really love Cadmus... It's great.

But does it have the same features of Evolved?, or what is missing from evolved?

[Thermal Lance]

Originally posted by Armando Broncas:

Originally posted by Dashyr The Space Invader:

I play only cadmus now. He also made polearms have less delay when attacking. WIch was causing a problem with the AI that couldnt use them correctly. He made a lot of One-Handed sword able to be used 2 handed too. But only those that makes sense like the english longsword and the likes. Added ton of weapons from native that were somehow absent too. He redisigned the sieges so it is more varied in setup.

A wonderful edition. But be careful with the bandit lords. These pricks can ruin a whole army by their sheer number if youre not careful. You can take them on but you need to lure part of it away from the main pack. Then attack the lord when the numbers are less insane.

Sincerely... I really love Cadmus... It's great.

But does it have the same features of Evolved?, or what is missing from evolved?

Not a big fan of evolved. The big thing with evolved is the mod that let you play as one of your troops when you die. Personally I do not like that... Also the latest version uses the script enhancer wich is quite outdated by now. It's good but I prefer to keep my installation as clean as possible.

Evolved is like... a tad bit more nice looking. But really... dosent change all that much from Floris when it comes to gameplay. Cadmus has tweaks that quite dramatically changes the combat in some situation. Personally I think it is for the better.

About the dieing thing. I hate it because it removes the game's biggest consequence for dieing. If you die, you ain't there to assist them. That aspect of the game was annoying to some but it encourages playing smart and actually behave like a leader.

[Hasbulat]

Tonns of new weapons is somehow... so, to find a one of your choice you will travell through all Land and search in tonns of crap. With a good luck with success ones upon a time.

So, I dont realy like most of mods. A game was made by a team with a vision, strategie, total balance view. Moders just throw inside rounded game some traingles what mostly makes the whole game broken.

[Antiga]

Originally posted by Hasbulat:

Tonns of new weapons is somehow... so, to find a one of your choice you will travell through all Land and search in tonns of crap. With a good luck with success ones upon a time.

So, I dont realy like most of mods. A game was made by a team with a vision, strategie, total balance view. Moders just throw inside rounded game some traingles what mostly makes the whole game broken.

That's just not true.

Especially if you look at the bigger total conversions. The mods that are designed from scratch with new stats in mind. Modders aren't just thrown down numbers assuming it'll work right, these things are playtested, and a whole lot more than the original M&B ever was back in the day.

The great thing about M&B and it's mods are the mods are often an extension of that same vision the dev had for M&B. Pretty much every mod makes gracious use of the different possibilities and mechanics M&B haas to offer, you'll find few popular mods that have stripped anything away, or are highly unbalanced.

[Armando Broncas]

Originally posted by Dashyr The Space Invader:

I play only cadmus now. He also made polearms have less delay when attacking. WIch was causing a problem with the AI that couldnt use them correctly. He made a lot of One-Handed sword able to be used 2 handed too. But only those that makes sense like the english longsword and the likes. Added ton of weapons from native that were somehow absent too. He redisigned the sieges so it is more varied in setup.

A wonderful edition. But be careful with the bandit lords. These pricks can ruin a whole army by their sheer number if youre not careful. You can take them on but you need to lure part of it away from the main pack. Then attack the lord when the numbers are less insane.

Sincerely... I really love Cadmus... It's great.

I'm having a lot of crashes with Cadmus, a lot of "out of memory" crashes related to textures... I wasn't having this with evolved.

[Thermal Lance]

Originally posted by Armando Broncas:

Originally posted by Dashyr The Space Invader:

I play only cadmus now. He also made polearms have less delay when attacking. WIch was causing a problem with the AI that couldnt use them correctly. He made a lot of One-Handed sword able to be used 2 handed too. But only those that makes sense like the english longsword and the likes. Added ton of weapons from native that were somehow absent too. He redisigned the sieges so it is more varied in setup.

A wonderful edition. But be careful with the bandit lords. These pricks can ruin a whole army by their sheer number if youre not careful. You can take them on but you need to lure part of it away from the main pack. Then attack the lord when the numbers are less insane.

Sincerely... I really love Cadmus... It's great.

I'm having a lot of crashes with Cadmus, a lot of "out of memory" crashes related to textures... I wasn't having this with evolved.

That is weird. I never crashed with it so far... The out of memory thing is even weirder since im playing this on a 2012 business laptop that was never meant to run that. =S

Well, too bad.

[Armando Broncas]

Originally posted by Dashyr The Space Invader:

Originally posted by Armando Broncas:

I'm having a lot of crashes with Cadmus, a lot of "out of memory" crashes related to textures... I wasn't having this with evolved.

That is weird. I never crashed with it so far... The out of memory thing is even weirder since im playing this on a 2012 business laptop that was never meant to run that. =S

Well, too bad.

I downloaded it from the nexus but i started having this issues so i just continued with floris evolved and have been playing a few hours now and 0 crashes on that mod, but Cadmus was just unplayable after a while.