More then 2200 hours and I have something to say about Viking Quest.

[freelancer909]

I am not putting it down but it is not as good as War Band Modified yet. I hate the map. I hate the hills everywhere. Once meeting the Mayer you should not have to go find him again. Banners suck bigtime. The music is terrible. The total lack of varity of weapons is bad. What happened to horses? Is this a Mount and Blade game or Walk and Blade game. The Halls suck not big enough. Would a King be in a small building? as well as the Cities. Mount and Blade should of had better Cities. Forget Bows they are useless. Shields are everything and the most boring. I dislike the view of lords, You don't know who they are until you see them close. I hate the names. Why not simple names people can remember. Like Kong, Ching, Dong, William, Snowy, Blacky, etc. A pony in Mount in Blade are your kidding.

But I do like the fact there is a story mode. I like playing the game somewhat. I have switched back and forth, but Mount and Blade Mods beat this game badly. Just my opinion after over 2000 hours, but they need to get it togeather. This is not what I would have put out. We need more landscapes not the same old crap every battle. I like going from snow to sand, and more goals, like becom a millionaire. Become King. Become Quenn. Become the best trader. Become the best theif. Become the best pirate. More Knight tales, something. Stick to what made Mount and Blade great - a Horse and Sword.

[Hat8]

Hopefully Bannerlord avoids these mistakes.

These games need variety, they need a diversity of nations.

[Sieda]

I assume this is a troll post but on the off chance it isn't, many of those choices come down to setting/historical accuracy decisions. Geographical variety, cavalry heavy armies, ornate, flashy weaponry, and gaudy, ambitious works of architecture weren't really hallmarks of the Viking Age in Britian.

While I too appreciate the variety and aesthetic of a "High" middle ages setting, I don't think these are really valid complaints, since implementing them in Viking Conquest would pervert the entire setting of the dlc.

[Tuidjy]

I think that the original poster just wasted his money on Viking Conquest. It simply is not what he is looking for. He should also stay away from Gekokujo, Brytenwalda, and other historical mods. What he enjoys was not around the British Isles at the time of the Viking Invasion, and so he will not find it in a mod that strives for historical accuracy.

I recommend he and people like him try Prophecy of Pendor, Phantasy Calradia, Suvarnabhumi Mahayuth - great mods that bring a lot of flash and new mechanics on the table, and do not let historical accuracy get in the way of fun.

But as an aside, as someone who enjoyed Viking Conquest a lot, I have to say a few things:
- bows in the player's hands are not useless.
- at high settings, some banners look good, and I love my custom one
- you can still amass one million cash
- some cities, well OK, one city, has a very impressive map, better than any in Warband
- with good riding, horses feel more powerful than in Native, because there is little competition

Of course, at the end, if you do not enjoy infantry combat with large numbers, this mod is not for you. And I am sure Bannerlord will offer MOAR STUFF! out of the box, just as I am sure that there will be Bannerlord mods for everyone.

[X-the Unknown]

You played over 2000 hours of a game you don't like? lol I find most EVERYTHING wonderful about this dsl content that I wished would have been in vanilla and mods. Modders can't even come close to what this version of M&B brings. Of all the mods and vanilla I have; this is my favorite. When you said the music was bad was when I became suspicious of your intentions because the music is great ad I can't get enough of it. I love pipe music and enigma type music both are my favorites and this game has them both.

But, as I started out; you playing over 2000 hours proves you liked it more than you are saying you are and just want to complain for complainings sake. Now, I will agree with you on "one" thing and that is the searching for the mayor and physician everytime you go into town as well as your farmsteads, they should have been streamlined after the first time and then a choice on the display and instantly going to them like the market, etc. etc. on that screen. Afterall they did streamline the divisional setups in the combat portion which I'm glad they did.

The map though is just wonderful and the 3 continents even better than vanilla. Numerous villages now and forts and towns even make it greater than before. I felt 5 factions in vanilla just too few and too boring and once you knocked out a couple of them it really became boring. Not Viking Conquest though. Plus, the random quests and missions and outlying ruins that have different things than just fighing all the time are a GREAT addition to the game. I hope BannerLord has as much or more.

Next time you want to complain about a game don't say you played it so long lol Because you obviously liked the way it was or you wouldn't have played it so long with all the "better" games out there calling your name right? :) But, you fall into that catagory of "Lazy Gamer" as the population of it keeps growing as I read it a lot more on Steam these days of people wanting this and that to make the game easier and less interactions. I suggest Norbsoft's Civil War series and Command Ops then as you don't have to do much in those games but just "watch" and eat your candy and chips till you get to be a FAT SLOB. :))

[ambi]

2000 hours? That's over 5 hours per day in a single year. You must like this game alot. :)

[X-the Unknown]

Originally posted by klacoste:

2000 hours? That's over 5 hours per day in a single year. You must like this game alot. :)

Nah, he hates it,l it just took his IQ that long to figure it out. :)))

[Ragnar LootBlock]

try this overhaul for VC: http://www.nexusmods.com/mbwarband/mods/6139/?tab=1&navtag=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nexusmods.com%2Fmbwarband%2Fajax%2Fmoddescription%2F%3Fid%3D6139%26preview%3D&pUp=1
;)

[White Knight]

Viking Conquest made a lot of improvements and they messed up a few things as well. It is far from perfect and yet it certainly has added some very cool things. All told, it is a worthy dlc for one of the best games ever.

The fact that a player can enjoy a game for two thousand hours and still have criticisms isn't even remotely strange. I'm exactly the same in this regard. Get a few idiot fanboys jumping in to try and deny VC is anything but total perfection, and I can sound just as butthurt as anyone else.

While playing a good game, frustrations can overwhelm a person. They might get fed up to the point where they post something like this...despite enjoying the game. The opinions of fanboys are worthless - they are no better than zealots in that regard. Critical thinking is where it's at and being honest about the pros and cons is what worthwhile opinions are made of.

The OP has put in the time and is entitled to his opinion. That's all it is though...an opinion. I've seen all of the points he mentioned in a thousand other posts, he isn't wrong about any of it (although a few points are overstated).

Refute his points and put your own forward if you feel the need to do so but don't go around attacking people for having opinions...that just makes us all look like a bunch of losers in here.

[Trtl]

Good sir, I and my colleages believe not that you played this for 2000 hours. Might yo enlighten us. Also have you tried any of the mods on workshop ,for there are many mods out to elievate most of the concerns you listed.

[Fluke]

I just finished then Vc story camppaing and over all enjoyed it.

I loved the idea of wounds but for crying out loud, wtf I have to go wandering all over the town map to find the doc,same for mayor .why not just a simple context menu same as traders.Blood loss was anothert realism aspect I thought was cool.

I thought the ships were functional and a good base for future games to build on.I would really like to see this aspect develpoed further.

The unique side areas where you somtimes got named items was a nice touch to break things up a bit.

I found reading some of the text quite difficult due to say,dark blue text on a black background,why not white text on black background with a coloured shield inset to donate faction.

I have always found the naming convention for items very silly in M+B games.Quick get me my " Tatty sturdy old norse helm with chaimail neck"I want to wear it ,not read it.Why not, Norse helm Q3 or Norse Helm Q10 Q = quality of item. Or put a G in the bottom corner with a value of 1 to 10 to describe its condition.The acutual graphic tells you if there is a neck piece or not /shrugs.

I bought VC when it first came out.Played it for an hour or so and decided back then, its a bug ridden mess.Started playing properly last week after seeing it had been patched at some point..Big improvment but still,release was shocking.

On a last note,would love to see the trading side developed to a more complex level,give us Marco Polo type peeps somthing to fight for.

[Hat8]

Originally posted by klacoste:

2000 hours? That's over 5 hours per day in a single year. You must like this game alot. :)

Doesn't make sense. It's not like his is an MMO where the game changes.

[Tuidjy]

Originally posted by Hat21:

Originally posted by klacoste:

2000 hours? That's over 5 hours per day in a single year. You must like this game alot. :)

Doesn't make sense. It's not like his is an MMO where the game changes.

There are hundreds of Mount and Blade mods. There are at least a dozen great ones. There is multiplayer.

It is not so unusual to have 2000+ hours. It is not that unusual to love some mods, and hate others.

I have 2000+ hours just on this account, I love, among others, Gekokujo, and hate the ♥♥♥. Nothing unusual with the way the original poster is feeling, in my opinion.

[KalkiKrosah]

Originally posted by Tuidjy:

I think that the original poster just wasted his money on Viking Conquest. It simply is not what he is looking for. He should also stay away from Gekokujo, Brytenwalda, and other historical mods. What he enjoys was not around the British Isles at the time of the Viking Invasion, and so he will not find it in a mod that strives for historical accuracy.

I recommend he and people like him try Prophecy of Pendor, Phantasy Calradia, Suvarnabhumi Mahayuth - great mods that bring a lot of flash and new mechanics on the table, and do not let historical accuracy get in the way of fun.

But as an aside, as someone who enjoyed Viking Conquest a lot, I have to say a few things:
- bows in the player's hands are not useless.
- at high settings, some banners look good, and I love my custom one
- you can still amass one million cash
- some cities, well OK, one city, has a very impressive map, better than any in Warband
- with good riding, horses feel more powerful than in Native, because there is little competition

Of course, at the end, if you do not enjoy infantry combat with large numbers, this mod is not for you. And I am sure Bannerlord will offer MOAR STUFF! out of the box, just as I am sure that there will be Bannerlord mods for everyone.

Just curious, which city are you talking about that had a very impressive map? Was it Dubhlinn?

[Tuidjy]

Dubhlinn has a very annoying map, but I would hardly call it impressive. No, it was one of the cities just south of the Pictish lands, built in a bay, and with a keep high on a cliff. The name escapes me, so I'm going to start the game up...I guess I'll take a screenshot while I'm at it.

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I was thinking of Bebbanburh, but while its map is certainly big, the port buildings at the foot of the cliff aren't all that impressive. The screenshot I'm posting is actually from Tunsberg in Northverg. By the way, what is seen in the screenshot is still only about half the city - the keep, the lord's hall, etc... are in the walled area behind the player character.

And yeah, I should probably have have waited to get the screenshot on my gaming PC, and arranged for my royal fleet in port and no fog. Can't be arsed.

[the smoking mค็็็็็n]

sounds like bebbanburgh then