Path-finding on companions does not increase Party map speed

[oh no]

Is it true that parth-finding levels on companions does not increase or stack with party members?

I just tested it in my game (viking conquest). I was running at 8 speed on land. So i gave Brunhild 2 points in path finding, and it did not improve the party speed beyond 8. Are they not supposed to stack?

[Včelí medvídek]

No, party skills does not stack. Only highest one is in use.

But if you ahve the highest, second highest one give you small bonus.

[Tuidjy]

Originally posted by Včelí medvídek:

No, party skills does not stack. Only highest one is in use.

But if you ahve the highest, second highest one give you small bonus.

Not quite true. If you have the highest skill in the party, no one else's skill matters. Here is exactly how it works, copy pasted from an old post of mine:

Apart from Training, no skill stacks in most mods. There are exceptions, like Leadership in Viking Conquest, but in 99% of the cases, skills are in one of four types:
- leader skills (only useful on the party leader, i.e. you or a lord leading his warband)
- personal skills (only affect the person who has them)
- party skills (affect the whole party, see how the effective value is derived below)
- training (stacks, as long as the targets are lower level than the trainer)

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Deriving the party skill's effective value:
1) Take the highest relevant skill in the party
2) Add a bonus from the player's skill as follows:
- 0 for 0-1
- 1 for 2-4
- 2 for 5-7
- 3 for 8-9
- 4 for 10

So, for example, if Ymira has tactics 7 and you have Tactics 5, the skill is 9, i.e. 7+2

If you have the highest skill, no one else's skill matters. For example, if you have Tactics 8, the effective party skill is 11, i.e. 8+3, and as long as no companion has higher skill than 8, their Tactics do not matter.

As a consequence, the highest level a party skill can reach is 14, which is when the player has 10, and adds a +4 to it.

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So, is there a point in having multiple companions with the same party skill?

Sometimes it is useful:
- A party member can be temporarily unconscious
- A party member can be on a mission
- A party member can get рissed off, and leave

Originally posted by Allan:

Is it true that parth-finding levels on companions does not increase or stack with party members?

I just tested it in my game (viking conquest). I was running at 8 speed on land. So i gave Brunhild 2 points in path finding, and it did not improve the party speed beyond 8. Are they not supposed to stack?

Giving Brunhild 2 points in path finding would ONLY help if that made her path-finding skill higher than anyone else's in the party.

[Včelí medvídek]

Originally posted by Tuidjy:

Originally posted by Včelí medvídek:

No, party skills does not stack. Only highest one is in use.

But if you ahve the highest, second highest one give you small bonus.

Not quite true. If you have the highest skill in the party, no one else's skill matters. Here is exactly how it works, copy pasted from an old post of mine:

Apart from Training, no skill stacks in most mods. There are exceptions, like Leadership in Viking Conquest, but in 99% of the cases, skills are in one of four types:
- leader skills (only useful on the party leader, i.e. you or a lord leading his warband)
- personal skills (only affect the person who has them)
- party skills (affect the whole party, see how the effective value is derived below)
- training (stacks, as long as the targets are lower level than the trainer)

========

Deriving the party skill's effective value:
1) Take the highest relevant skill in the party
2) Add a bonus from the player's skill as follows:
- 0 for 0-1
- 1 for 2-4
- 2 for 5-7
- 3 for 8-9
- 4 for 10

So, for example, if Ymira has tactics 7 and you have Tactics 5, the skill is 9, i.e. 7+2

If you have the highest skill, no one else's skill matters. For example, if you have Tactics 8, the effective party skill is 11, i.e. 8+3, and as long as no companion has higher skill than 8, their Tactics do not matter.

As a consequence, the highest level a party skill can reach is 14, which is when the player has 10, and adds a +4 to it.

======

So, is there a point in having multiple companions with the same party skill?

Sometimes it is useful:
- A party member can be temporarily unconscious
- A party member can be on a mission
- A party member can get рissed off, and leave

Originally posted by Allan:

Is it true that parth-finding levels on companions does not increase or stack with party members?

I just tested it in my game (viking conquest). I was running at 8 speed on land. So i gave Brunhild 2 points in path finding, and it did not improve the party speed beyond 8. Are they not supposed to stack?

Giving Brunhild 2 points in path finding would ONLY help if that made her path-finding skill higher than anyone else's in the party.

How it is?

Right now in my game, I have many skills highest in party. For example my surgery is 10, no one else has 10 (and neither 11..) . Actually second highest surgery in party atm is 6.

And on party screen I see Surgery 10+4. (under my character name)

[damesh2]

Originally posted by Včelí medvídek:

How it is?

Right now in my game, I have many skills highest in party. For example my surgery is 10, no one else has 10 (and neither 11..) . Actually second highest surgery in party atm is 6.

And on party screen I see Surgery 10+4. (under my character name)

You answered you're own question. Since you have the highest surgery...10 is displayed. Also, as Tuidjy stated, you give a bonus to the player with the highest skill level based on your level, i.e. +4 since your level is 10. Hence surgery skill is 10 +4.

[Včelí medvídek]

Originally posted by damesh2:

Originally posted by Včelí medvídek:

How it is?

Right now in my game, I have many skills highest in party. For example my surgery is 10, no one else has 10 (and neither 11..) . Actually second highest surgery in party atm is 6.

And on party screen I see Surgery 10+4. (under my character name)

You answered you're own question. Since you have the highest surgery...10 is displayed. Also, as Tuidjy stated, you give a bonus to the player with the highest skill level based on your level, i.e. +4 since your level is 10. Hence surgery skill is 10 +4.

So I am getting the bonus from myself?

[the smoking mค็็็็็n]

it should be 10+2 with a second of 6
i think it is a bug,it happened to an import of mine to

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=897493919

[Včelí medvídek]

Originally posted by the smoking mค็็็็็n:

it should be 10+2 with a second of 6
i think it is a bug,it happened to an import of mine to

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=897493919

Well, thats how I understood it till now...

But, damn those guys above are right... Just start new game and you will see it is not bug, you just get bonuses from yourself even if you are alone (even as strange it is...)

"Funny", I never noted this with way over 1000 hours in this game...:-)

[korac]

Originally posted by the smoking mค็็็็็n:

it should be 10+2 with a second of 6
i think it is a bug,it happened to an import of mine to

No, it should be 10+4. If your own skill is the highest, no Companion skill matters (except for Training). The +4 is the "own character" bonus, based on your own skill level, and is applied to whichever member has the highest level of that skill (which just happens to be own character in this case).

It's worth reading Tuidjy's excellent post very carefully as the +X can be confusing without that explanation.

[the smoking mค็็็็็n]

huh,in all my time i can't remember ever getting a bonus without party members who contribute to the score
but iv'e only recently started playing again and only VC,so maybe i'm mistaken