Swadian knights.

[Adahn (´ ᴥ `)]

Everyone calls them overpowered but does anyone even use them on harder difficulties? They get ♥♥♥♥♥♥ by Nord huscarls, Rhodok sharpshooters and Vaegir marksmen in ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ seconds.

[Adahn (´ ᴥ `)]

Originally posted by MrRugila:

I'd like to see them try. All you need is to attack from behind while your infantry/archers distract your huscarls from the front.

Try that in a siege.

What then? You're just gonna charge your knights into them and get stuck and battered from all sides?

You can't charge them if they are standing on a hill either way.

[Sukberia]

Originally posted by Aurourus:

Originally posted by MrRugila:

I'd like to see them try. All you need is to attack from behind while your infantry/archers distract your huscarls from the front.

Try that in a siege.

What then? You're just gonna charge your knights into them and get stuck and battered from all sides?

You can't charge them if they are standing on a hill either way.

ayyyy lmao, knight's strenght comes from horses. In siege you can't do horses, so ofc they are not "OP" in sieges. On a flat plain, your ♥♥♥♥♥♥ infantrymen git ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ by the Superior Swadian Knights

[Adahn (´ ᴥ `)]

Originally posted by Alberto Barbosa:

Originally posted by Aurourus:

Try that in a siege.

What then? You're just gonna charge your knights into them and get stuck and battered from all sides?

You can't charge them if they are standing on a hill either way.

ayyyy lmao, knight's strenght comes from horses. In siege you can't do horses, so ofc they are not "OP" in sieges. On a flat plain, your ♥♥♥♥♥♥ infantrymen git ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ by the Superior Swadian Knights

Explain to me how 100 knights can win against 100 huscarl shield wall in an open field.

You charge them in and then what? You will get 40 kills at best and then they will just clobbed your knights to death while they are stuck because of how retarded the horses can be sometimes.

[Včelí medvídek]

Originally posted by Aurourus:

Originally posted by Alberto Barbosa:

ayyyy lmao, knight's strenght comes from horses. In siege you can't do horses, so ofc they are not "OP" in sieges. On a flat plain, your ♥♥♥♥♥♥ infantrymen git ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ by the Superior Swadian Knights

Explain to me how 100 knights can win against 100 huscarl shield wall in an open field.

You charge them in and then what? You will get 40 kills at best and then they will just clobbed your knights to death while they are stuck because of how retarded the horses can be sometimes.

retreat and charge again.

[Adahn (´ ᴥ `)]

Originally posted by Včelí medvídek:

Originally posted by Aurourus:

Explain to me how 100 knights can win against 100 huscarl shield wall in an open field.

You charge them in and then what? You will get 40 kills at best and then they will just clobbed your knights to death while they are stuck because of how retarded the horses can be sometimes.

retreat and charge again.

Yes, because your troops are gonna magically pass through the masses of infantry around them.

[Sukberia]

Originally posted by Aurourus:

Originally posted by Včelí medvídek:

retreat and charge again.

Yes, because your troops are gonna magically pass through the masses of infantry around them.

or soround them? idk, this discussion seems pretty pointless to be honest. But if you wanna be "right" then yes in a siege, huscarls are the best soldiers. In open Plains, knights are the best. Sorry

[Adahn (´ ᴥ `)]

Originally posted by Alberto Barbosa:

Originally posted by Aurourus:

Yes, because your troops are gonna magically pass through the masses of infantry around them.

or soround them? idk, this discussion seems pretty pointless to be honest. But if you wanna be "right" then yes in a siege, huscarls are the best soldiers. In open Plains, knights are the best. Sorry

People always back out of discussions when they know they are wrong.

[Adahn (´ ᴥ `)]

You can win with 200 knights against 200 huscarls if you use strategy, if it's ai vs ai huscarls will almost always win.

[Včelí medvídek]

Originally posted by Aurourus:

Originally posted by Včelí medvídek:

retreat and charge again.

Yes, because your troops are gonna magically pass through the masses of infantry around them.

No. It is standard cavalry tactic hit-and run, you never let them go too deep to enemy ranks. If you play hard difficulty anyway u usualy attach enemy by your own infantry and archers and than hit with cavalry from flank or behind, it is not realiable have onyl one type.

Yes you need use tactic, ofc.

[Sukberia]

Originally posted by Aurourus:

Originally posted by Alberto Barbosa:

or soround them? idk, this discussion seems pretty pointless to be honest. But if you wanna be "right" then yes in a siege, huscarls are the best soldiers. In open Plains, knights are the best. Sorry

People always back out of discussions when they know they are wrong.

not wrong, the ai will never have 200 huscarls in a single battle anyway. Knight win in open plains, huscarls win in sieges. That's about it. No need to be an ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥, but since the majority of the M&B community is toxic as ♥♥♥♥, then you're not alone :D

[Adahn (´ ᴥ `)]

Originally posted by Alberto Barbosa:

Originally posted by Aurourus:

People always back out of discussions when they know they are wrong.

not wrong, the ai will never have 200 huscarls in a single battle anyway. Knight win in open plains, huscarls win in sieges. That's about it. No need to be an ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥, but since the majority of the M&B community is toxic as ♥♥♥♥, then you're not alone :D

By open plains you mean like completely open plains? Because swadians can't charge up hills even the small ones, just place your infantry on top of a hill or mid way on it and archers on top and all cavalry is countered.

[Adahn (´ ᴥ `)]

I'm not saying swadian knights are completely useless but they are seriously overrated, huscarls can beat them by just standing in a shield wall on top of a hill, you can't charge them with lances since you can't even get your horse to run fast enough while going up a hill.

Also nord infantry doubles as archers, they ♥♥♥♥ throwing weapons all over you.

[Sukberia]

Originally posted by Aurourus:

I'm not saying swadian knights are completely useless but they are seriously overrated, huscarls can beat them by just standing in a shield wall on top of a hill, you can't charge them with lances since you can't even get your horse to run fast enough while going up a hill.

Also nord infantry doubles as archers, they ♥♥♥♥ throwing weapons all over you.

then it's TACTICS, that seem to bother you. Listen we got off on the wrong foot here.


Swadian Knights are awesome due to their huge armor stats, armoured horses and charge value, but they will obviously will die if you charge them into a shielwall on a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ hill.


Just as huscarls will get rekt if they fight on an open field against knights, or charge a castle against rhodoki crossbowmen

[Adahn (´ ᴥ `)]

Originally posted by Alberto Barbosa:

Originally posted by Aurourus:

I'm not saying swadian knights are completely useless but they are seriously overrated, huscarls can beat them by just standing in a shield wall on top of a hill, you can't charge them with lances since you can't even get your horse to run fast enough while going up a hill.

Also nord infantry doubles as archers, they ♥♥♥♥ throwing weapons all over you.

then it's TACTICS, that seem to bother you. Listen we got off on the wrong foot here.


Swadian Knights are awesome due to their huge armor stats, armoured horses and charge value, but they will obviously will die if you charge them into a shielwall on a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ hill.


Just as huscarls will get rekt if they fight on an open field against knights, or charge a castle against rhodoki crossbowmen

What can you do with knights besides charging them?

[Rose]

Originally posted by Aurourus:

Everyone calls them overpowered but does anyone even use them on harder difficulties? They get ♥♥♥♥ed by Nord huscarls, Rhodok sharpshooters and Vaegir marksmen in ♥♥♥♥ing seconds.

Enough foul Infantryman you know your Peasents can't hold against Noble Knights