[Viking Conquest] Any good horses?

[Kommandir]

I got 2 horses from tournaments, they are cool and very useful, but they are just...normal horses. I want something more special but havent found anything good around...just overpriced Heavy Horses and Meek Horses. I particularly like a black Meek Horse which has a speed of 52, but its so ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ expensive...should i buy this beauty? Does it lose it's Meek modifier if it gets crippled? Is there any other horse worth buying?

[Tuidjy]

There are basically only two types of horse, and one is a rather underwhelming pony. The only other differences are color and modifiers like Heavy, Meek, etc. Unfortunately, the modifiers are lost when the horse gets crippled.

On the other hand, skill points are easy to come by, Agility 20 is not hard to get if you start a combat character, and thus Riding 10 is very much attainable. With Riding 10, the standard horse is more maneuverable, and maybe even quicker than what you would get in most mods with Riding four or five.

[the smoking mค็็็็็n]

i've never seen a black horse,so buy it
there are champion horses

[White Knight]

Viking Conquest hates horses. Apparently, some people believe there were no horses in Britain in the 9th century? Of course, the chariots of the Ancient Celts and horse worshipping cults like Epona brought over by the Romans during their centuries of occupation, don't seem to matter much to those folks.

Horses come in everything from Lame to Champion, with all sorts of colours. Then you have ponies for when your horse gets taken down and that's all you can find on the battlefield. Originally, VC had almost no horses at all, which is why getting a "normal" horse as a tournament prize was a big deal. None of those prizes are worth much. The swords are barely fit for giving to your mid-level companions, the armour is worse than stuff you can pick up from the battlefield, etc. Even when refined by armour and weaponsmiths, it's all pretty mediocre.

The rarity with which they are handed out gives the impression you are getting something wondrous but it's not true...they're just cheapskates.

I keep about five or six extra horses in my inventory. This not only allows me to move more quickly on the campaign map but it also means that I always have a good horse to swap out when my mount goes lame.

I'm not totally clear on the process but I think it works something like this: Your horse gets "killed" in combat and becomes a normal animal, losing it's status (Spirited, Heavy, etc.). If that horse gets taken out, it becomes lame. When a lamed horse gets taken out, it dies. Having spare horses means that you can always swap out a lame horse and keep them all alive indefinitely.

I have two Champion horses but I'm too afraid to ride them.

A Heavy horse is about as sturdy an animal as you can get. No warhorses, no barding, etc.

Horses are fragile and prohibitively expensive because knuckle-dragging neanderthals resent anything that makes life difficult for sword and shield thugs.

The trick to getting multiple horses is to buy them lame and heal them up yourself. They don't appear in the loot very often (if at all?) and you'd be lucky to get more than one from tournaments. Hell, you'd be lucky to get one as a tournament prize.

Those prized tournament horses should be a lot more special, in my mind too. Something impressive - bigger, stronger and faster...a beast brought over from the mainland or something like that?

[Tuidjy]

Originally posted by White Knight:

Your horse gets "killed" in combat and becomes a normal animal, losing it's status (Spirited, Heavy, etc.). If that horse gets taken out, it becomes lame. When a lamed horse gets taken out, it dies. Having spare horses means that you can always swap out a lame horse and keep them all alive indefinitely.

It's almost, but not quite like the above.
1) If a non-lamed horse loses all hit points in battle, it has a chance to become lamed. If it does, it loses its modifier, if any, and gets 'lamed' as its modifier.
2) If a lame horse loses all hit points in battle, it has a chance to die. If it dies, it's gone.
3) Companions' and lords' horses do not get lamed and do not die. Even if you steal a horse from a companion, and it goes down under you, it will not get hurt. Thus the best use for Champion horses is to give them to the companions who fight on foot, and ride them after you dismount said companions.

In some mods, swaybacked horses count as lamed, i.e. they have a chance to die when they lose all hit points. I am not sure whether Viking Conquest does that, because I do not equip swaybacked horses - horses in Viking Conquest are slow enough.

[Sohei]

The ponies are acceptable if you are too poor to afford horses. Heavy horses are the ones to get if you are wealthy. Champions are a lot more for only a bit more performance and the main thing you need is extra toughness anyways which heavies provide. Better to buy extra heavy horses for when they get murdered by clouds of javelins so thick you can't dodge them all.

[Tuidjy]

Yes, I ride heavies, and the companions ride champions.

Sure, the latter cost an arm and a leg, but by late game, money is plentiful. Furthermore, kill enough Irishmen, and Looting 10(+4) will deliver a few champion horses.

[Sohei]

Yes, I also will give some champions to companions from loot drops or from the market in late game if I run out of other things to buy. I put a higher priority on giving them the best possible gear of other types first, even if it is only slightly better.

[White Knight]

Thanks for the clarification Tuidgy. I like the companions getting the Champion horses - I'll be sure to do that.

One of these days, I'll have to prioritize looting skills - it would seem that I've been missing out.

[the smoking mค็็็็็n]

you can use companions and be at 9+2 before you are even level 5 if you can find the comps before then
i get champ horses,thors hammer,ray spear etc with that score
i mentioned mods in the other thread that i confused with this one.it's easy enough to swap horses out for ones you like from other mods,but i was thinking mod wise it might be nice if you could breed your own horses,say at farms,with some different models,with chance for them based on stock
does that sound like an idea anyone would like other than me?
it's beyond me at this point,but i maybe able to find someone who can (do the scripting)
though i'm very likely to get the "time to" arguement from some so..

[White Knight]

I think a horse breeding option would be fantastic! Just like we can get into ranching in VC by dropping cattle off at Farmsteads, we could drop off viable stallions and mares for breeding purposes.

[SoakieCat]

Originally posted by Parrhesiastes:

Viking Conquest hates horses. Apparently, some people believe there were no horses in Britain in the 9th century? Of course, the chariots of the Ancient Celts and horse worshipping cults like Epona brought over by the Romans during their centuries of occupation, don't seem to matter much to those folks.

Horses come in everything from Lame to Champion, with all sorts of colours. Then you have ponies for when your horse gets taken down and that's all you can find on the battlefield. Originally, VC had almost no horses at all, which is why getting a "normal" horse as a tournament prize was a big deal. None of those prizes are worth much. The swords are barely fit for giving to your mid-level companions, the armour is worse than stuff you can pick up from the battlefield, etc. Even when refined by armour and weaponsmiths, it's all pretty mediocre.

The rarity with which they are handed out gives the impression you are getting something wondrous but it's not true...they're just cheapskates.

I keep about five or six extra horses in my inventory. This not only allows me to move more quickly on the campaign map but it also means that I always have a good horse to swap out when my mount goes lame.

I'm not totally clear on the process but I think it works something like this: Your horse gets "killed" in combat and becomes a normal animal, losing it's status (Spirited, Heavy, etc.). If that horse gets taken out, it becomes lame. When a lamed horse gets taken out, it dies. Having spare horses means that you can always swap out a lame horse and keep them all alive indefinitely.

I have two Champion horses but I'm too afraid to ride them.

A Heavy horse is about as sturdy an animal as you can get. No warhorses, no barding, etc.

Horses are fragile and prohibitively expensive because knuckle-dragging neanderthals resent anything that makes life difficult for sword and shield thugs.

The trick to getting multiple horses is to buy them lame and heal them up yourself. They don't appear in the loot very often (if at all?) and you'd be lucky to get more than one from tournaments. Hell, you'd be lucky to get one as a tournament prize.

Those prized tournament horses should be a lot more special, in my mind too. Something impressive - bigger, stronger and faster...a beast brought over from the mainland or something like that?

idk if they updated the game since the ♥♥♥♥♥♥ prizes from Tournaments but the prizes now are great, The sword is decent, the armour is better than anything you'd ever drop from an enemy, sometimes you can even get close to the best armour from a tournament, like a Norse Lorica with fur which is close to the best armour, second best to Wolf loricas and Bear loricas

[SoakieCat]

It would be nice if you could get Champion horses as the tournament prizes instead of just regular horses tho, I've found 1 Champion horse in my 1000 day save file and at that point I already had 5 back up meek/spirited horses, didn't think spending 11k for and extra few stats was worth it, especially since I had just fought off 3 factions armies of 2k+ troops and was low af on cash