MAX PARTY SIZE

[ttmanrichard]

It seems like the max party size is 150 for native, is there anyway to pass this size?

[Horcerer]

Well, you can mod it with TweakMB.

[ttmanrichard]

Originally posted by 52ndNYCplDavid Dire:

Well, you can mod it with TweakMB.

yea but without mods?

[one piece]

you can edit the txt file and just change a value. you can find it on youtube its really simple

[Tuidjy]

The hard cap on army size in Native is between 400 and 500. But legitimate play will not really let you go significantly over 250 and even at that number, you will have a very hard time managing morale and speed.

In case you are wondering where the numbers come from, you cannot get renown much higher than 5000, and even getting above 4000 requires great player skill and constant fighting at insane odds. Getting it over 10000 is mathematically impossible.

This said, you do not need large armies. I have united the map in Native without EVER employing anyone but companions. It was a pain, but it is possible. Winning any battle with 120 elite troops is not even that hard.

Good Tactics, taking out the enemy lords in the first round, and commanding your elite troops are the key, not stupidly large army sizes.

[ArcLight]

Originally posted by Tuidjy:

The hard cap on army size in Native is between 400 and 500. But legitimate play will not really let you go significantly over 250 and even at that number, you will have a very hard time managing morale and speed.

In case you are wondering where the numbers come from, you cannot get renown much higher than 5000, and even getting above 4000 requires great player skill and constant fighting at insane odds. Getting it over 10000 is mathematically impossible.

This said, you do not need large armies. I have united the map in Native without EVER employing anyone but companions. It was a pain, but it is possible. Winning any battle with 120 elite troops is not even that hard.

Good Tactics, taking out the enemy lords in the first round, and commanding your elite troops are the key, not stupidly large army sizes.

Wait wut... How.....

[Rabbit CoCo]

I also agree that it's unfair, I can lead around 120 men even my renown is over 1000,
whereas other lords can have over 600 men with 600 renown or lower !!!
I hope the coming new game bandlord can have a better balance in this setting.
For all of the lords, including us, the army size should related on the lands we own.
And there is a maxium.
On the other hand, 120 elite horsemen can still beat 200 or even 250 men.
When facing over 500 enemy, you have to look for someone to back you up.
Which made you 300-400 vs 500.
I have conqured the map 2 times, both within level 33, within 125 troops.
Money management is important, and you have to prepare extra elite horsemen for future use.
The program cheated so if you don't want yo cheat you have to think smart.
Good luck bro.

[one piece]

Originally posted by forplayinggame15:

I also agree that it's unfair, I can lead around 120 men even my renown is over 1000,
whereas other lords can have over 600 men with 600 renown or lower !!!
I hope the coming new game bandlord can have a better balance in this setting.
For all of the lords, including us, the army size should related on the lands we own.
And there is a maxium.
On the other hand, 120 elite horsemen can still beat 200 or even 250 men.
When facing over 500 enemy, you have to look for someone to back you up.
Which made you 300-400 vs 500.
I have conqured the map 2 times, both within level 33, within 125 troops.
Money management is important, and you have to prepare extra elite horsemen for future use.
The program cheated so if you don't want yo cheat you have to think smart.
Good luck bro. :warplate1::warplate2:

I think it's pretty fair considering most lords will only have like 150 at the very most ever, and only the king will proabaly ever even go over 200. Plus, lords don't have armies full of elite troops, it's mostly footmen, while the player can have all the best troops in their army.

[ttmanrichard]

Originally posted by Nerevar's Butler's Brother:

Originally posted by forplayinggame15:

I also agree that it's unfair, I can lead around 120 men even my renown is over 1000,
whereas other lords can have over 600 men with 600 renown or lower !!!
I hope the coming new game bandlord can have a better balance in this setting.
For all of the lords, including us, the army size should related on the lands we own.
And there is a maxium.
On the other hand, 120 elite horsemen can still beat 200 or even 250 men.
When facing over 500 enemy, you have to look for someone to back you up.
Which made you 300-400 vs 500.
I have conqured the map 2 times, both within level 33, within 125 troops.
Money management is important, and you have to prepare extra elite horsemen for future use.
The program cheated so if you don't want yo cheat you have to think smart.
Good luck bro. :warplate1::warplate2:

I think it's pretty fair considering most lords will only have like 150 at the very most ever, and only the king will proabaly ever even go over 200. Plus, lords don't have armies full of elite troops, it's mostly footmen, while the player can have all the best troops in their army.

Yea but during war time the battles sometimes go to 1000+

[one piece]

Originally posted by ttmanrichard:

Originally posted by Nerevar's Butler's Brother:

I think it's pretty fair considering most lords will only have like 150 at the very most ever, and only the king will proabaly ever even go over 200. Plus, lords don't have armies full of elite troops, it's mostly footmen, while the player can have all the best troops in their army.

Yea but during war time the battles sometimes go to 1000+

Yeah but then that's many lords together, you can't say it's unfair that the lone player has a smaller army than like 10 lords

[Tuidjy]

Originally posted by ttmanrichard:

Originally posted by Nerevar's Butler's Brother:

I think it's pretty fair considering most lords will only have like 150 at the very most ever, and only the king will proabaly ever even go over 200. Plus, lords don't have armies full of elite troops, it's mostly footmen, while the player can have all the best troops in their army.

Yea but during war time the battles sometimes go to 1000+

Nothing prevents the player from declaring himself a king, convincing a bunch of lords to join him, and then fielding campaigns like this one.

This is from the Floris mod, which is why the parties are large. You cannot easily get such troop numbers in Native, but you can certainly get such lord numbers.

[Phil khajeets]

How much is the maximum party size in the third age mod?

[Tuidjy]

Originally posted by Totaler Krieg:

How much is the maximum party size in the third age mod?

It really depends. That mod is very different from Native. Your rank with each faction, your special items, your influence and even the race of your soldiers can change how many men you can lead and keep happy.

You will never be able to operate independently (as in start sieges and defeat whole factions by yourself) so you do not need large armies... although, if you really want a horde, play as an orc. You may not enjoy the quality of your troops and equipment, I'm afraid.

[Phil khajeets]

Originally posted by Tuidjy:

Originally posted by Totaler Krieg:

How much is the maximum party size in the third age mod?

It really depends. That mod is very different from Native. Your rank with each faction, your special items, your influence and even the race of your soldiers can change how many men you can lead and keep happy.

You will never be able to operate independently (as in start sieges and defeat whole factions by yourself) so you do not need large armies... although, if you really want a horde, play as an orc. You may not enjoy the quality of your troops and equipment, I'm afraid.

Then Im playing for absolutely nothing well Im disappointed

[Rabbit CoCo]

Native version. Did anyone saw a single lord leading 650+ troop ??????? NOone ??????
(I should have posted that out---I misssed !)
Lords having 200-300 men were very common in native version.
Someone said player can have all in elite troops that's the advantage. My answer :
1. How long do you need to train 100-120 elite troops? Wheras some lords just need to stay inside a town/castle for ""one day"" to have 40 ""well trainned"" men. You'll see the different when you're attacking a town/castle. After you have lost 40 men form the first attack, in ""one day"" how many elite troops can can get back ?
2. Those lord that have 300 men, you really think that they're all Level 1-3 ??
I have fought a wonderful battle with a king that have 500+ men himself.
200 of our men vs 500+.
I have around 100 men all heavy cavalry, my lord have around 100 men mixed level 1-5.
That king -------------- just for heavy cavalry ----- nearly 200 !!!!!! Plus elite footmen, plus
level 3 cavalry and footmen.***** They are big slow army------ but were not weak !!!!
And don't forget, The fighting advantage is a ----- negative number,
you reinforcement is limited !!!! That's SUCKS !!!!!
We can have all in elite troop doesn't means that we have the advantage if our max men were fixed.
3. Lord number. No matter how many lords you've, when facing an enemy that have 500+ or even just 300+. All the you lords will just flee !! That's no brave man inside this game. Is a fair ?
4. "" but during war time the battles sometimes go to 1000+"" .
Yes, but mostly it's my 200-400 ve enemy 700+.
The mass fighting is extremely outstanding, I really enjoyed it.
But some of the settings were ................

[4FootBaymax]

lol something sounds wrong with your game. I have played around 1k hours and have never managed to see a 600 plus army in native...