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Skull Aug 6, 2018 @ 8:29pm
So... what happened to vognir?>
After finishing the game, I don`t think i saw any real closure to Vognirs death. If i remember correctly, there were some suspiocious about it, because he was stabed in the back, but I dont remember seeing this topic being raised again. Did i missed something?
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[__h.stickeye_] Aug 6, 2018 @ 11:21pm 
NO you missed nothing. It was hinted that Ludnir did it, but that was only suspicion. I dont think anyone ever talks about it again due to the crisis.
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CatMeowMeow Aug 7, 2018 @ 1:25am 
So who did it?
>Ludin
Because he was last seen with Vognir and Vognir got attack in the back.

>Dredge
Because they are everywhere!

Some absurd theories

>Yrsa
Shot him in the back and Ludin Finish the job.

>Juno
She know Hakon would get more men and Supplies from Strand if Vognir dies. and eventually investigate the dredge in Ridgehorn.
She can influence easily Hakon's mind as seen in "Ridge-heim" ordeal in Chapter 3.

>Accident
He just got drunk and tripped.

>Suicide
Because of how Banner Saga 1 Choices affects Banner Saga 3 by a lot.
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[__h.stickeye_] Aug 7, 2018 @ 2:37am 
we dont know. You can speculate, but their aren't enough clues.
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Inardesco Aug 7, 2018 @ 3:07am 
Hakon and Mogr talk about it in the 4th return to Arberrang. Devs have said that he died to the dredge because no one is unbeatable.
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Skull Aug 7, 2018 @ 4:52am 
Originally posted by Inardesco:
Hakon and Mogr talk about it in the 4th return to Arberrang. Devs have said that he died to the dredge because no one is unbeatable.

The devs said that? Rly? That is so anticlimatic...
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Inardesco Aug 7, 2018 @ 7:39am 
Originally posted by Skull:
Originally posted by Inardesco:
Hakon and Mogr talk about it in the 4th return to Arberrang. Devs have said that he died to the dredge because no one is unbeatable.

The devs said that? Rly? That is so anticlimatic...

Why? Why should there be some sort of conspiracy for it? Heck, Fasolt, I think...can die in the first game because he wants to keep the taxes. Trygv dies because he's drunk and charges in.

People die for all sort of reasons in the three games. Why is it so inconceivable that Vognir dies to a dredge?
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Skull Aug 7, 2018 @ 11:44am 
Originally posted by Inardesco:
Originally posted by Skull:

The devs said that? Rly? That is so anticlimatic...

Why? Why should there be some sort of conspiracy for it? Heck, Fasolt, I think...can die in the first game because he wants to keep the taxes. Trygv dies because he's drunk and charges in.

People die for all sort of reasons in the three games. Why is it so inconceivable that Vognir dies to a dredge?

It is not, but why raise this question in the first place? If the varl didnt said anything about him being stabbed in the back, it would not be a problem.

But look at the situation: You hint the players that there is more than meets the eye and you dont touch on the subject again? That is a high level of BS right there.
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Giopeppe Aug 7, 2018 @ 1:53pm 
Because, the Varl, a proud and fierce stock found it very difficult to believe their loved leader, hardened by hundreds of battles, fall to a random grunt.

Conspiracies, just like in real life!

But the reality is that... sometimes... dredge happens!
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Pirate Aug 7, 2018 @ 2:20pm 
They were trying to set the tone for the rest of the game. You don't always go out in a blaze of glory, even a seasoned veteran can have the most anti-climatic death.
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[__h.stickeye_] Aug 7, 2018 @ 10:45pm 
the execution is horrible, just like the ending in bs3. they got a lot right to do with the turn based combat, but the story is sub par at best. It has its moments which are awesome and make me like the game, but they have so much room to make it like it should have been. BRING on EXTENDED EDITION Banner Saga Trilogy
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DeadlyAlbatross Aug 7, 2018 @ 11:02pm 
Originally posted by __h.stickeye_:
BRING on EXTENDED EDITION Banner Saga Trilogy

I'd rather go for a complete refund for BS3.
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DeadlyAlbatross Aug 8, 2018 @ 10:30am 
Originally posted by Sarevok:
Originally posted by CalibrationHero:

I'd rather go for a complete refund for BS3.
Private profile as always. Honestly I think that Steam should restrict users with private profiles from posting on forums :steamfacepalm:

Because you cannot handle anonymity?
It's a great thing. You should try it.
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Inardesco Aug 8, 2018 @ 10:53am 
Originally posted by CalibrationHero:
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This . offends me.
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DeadlyAlbatross Aug 8, 2018 @ 11:35am 
Banner Saga 3 for me wasn't a game I had to beat - it was was easily beatable.

I played it for the promise of an epic conclusion to an epic saga, and said conclusion never happened, not in a proper way. What happened, was, 'We lived, they died, we rebuild, here's five lines of a poem we wrote during BS1 that we broke down into chapter names'. And that's if we didn't get an oxcart of bullcrap with the spirit world ending as well as the Aberrang didn't make it ending.

This is a promise broken, false advertising at least.
And it was consciously hidden at the end of the game, where the whole drop of quality actually happened, where a gamer couldn't discover it without, well, going through the motions of completing the story.

After completion I was more traumatized than satisfied, and not because of the downer ending -- Soul Reaver Defiance had one of those too, as did Arkham Knight - but I wasn't bothered then.
I am now, because of the failed ending that has purposely accumulated tension in the player and then failed to resolve it.
If you are a guy, ask your doctor -- that stuff isn't healthy.

So yeah, I consider the whole BS3 a promise unkept, therefore yes, I would absolutely request a refund for the ruined experience and several wasted days of my life (one spent on the actual game, two spent underperforming because of the trauma of the finale that never happened).
Last edited by DeadlyAlbatross; Aug 8, 2018 @ 11:37am
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Skull Aug 8, 2018 @ 5:29pm 
Originally posted by CalibrationHero:
Banner Saga 3 for me wasn't a game I had to beat - it was was easily beatable.

I played it for the promise of an epic conclusion to an epic saga, and said conclusion never happened, not in a proper way. What happened, was, 'We lived, they died, we rebuild, here's five lines of a poem we wrote during BS1 that we broke down into chapter names'. And that's if we didn't get an oxcart of bullcrap with the spirit world ending as well as the Aberrang didn't make it ending.

This is a promise broken, false advertising at least.
And it was consciously hidden at the end of the game, where the whole drop of quality actually happened, where a gamer couldn't discover it without, well, going through the motions of completing the story.

After completion I was more traumatized than satisfied, and not because of the downer ending -- Soul Reaver Defiance had one of those too, as did Arkham Knight - but I wasn't bothered then.
I am now, because of the failed ending that has purposely accumulated tension in the player and then failed to resolve it.
If you are a guy, ask your doctor -- that stuff isn't healthy.

So yeah, I consider the whole BS3 a promise unkept, therefore yes, I would absolutely request a refund for the ruined experience and several wasted days of my life (one spent on the actual game, two spent underperforming because of the trauma of the finale that never happened).

Loved your text. Specially for the soul reaver part. That game is epic! So sad that we dont have a new Raziel game. =/
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