Its a good game but its too easy

[lily40k]

The reviews for this game are so good as if its something on par with HL2 or its an underrated game, but i think the average rating is fair for it.

I kinda expected more from this game.
I played from the get go on the hardest difficulty and not chosing any alien powers and i'm absolutely overpowered. I kill every single nightmare when it spawns in seconds before it can make the first hit. There is no enemy that is actually scary at this point, and i have plenty of resources. The beginning of the game was the hardest and thats where i would load 3 or more times to get the fight right. But now its not a challenge at all and i just dont even want to finish it. Also for the most part of the game i didnt even find the beam weapon, so all this was done with golden pistol (found it after i upgraded normal pistol to the max), shotgun, and stun gun.

Games fail to have true difficulty and resource scarcety... on hardest difficulty i expected to have very few options for ammo and often be forced to choose to avoid combat or at least be very economical with ammo. Resident Evil games capture this feeling very well. Unfortunately others just dont put enough time in difficulty differences to figure it out. Its a shame but its still a great game.

[Watermelons]

Choosing Typhon powers exclusively actually make the game much harder. The human trees have too many useful options, including options for increasing you Psi pool and general survivability, while Typhon trees only offer abilities that cost Psi, and some specialized damage resistance.
Not using human skills also ends up limiting your inventory space, making resource management ( if not scarcity ) more important, especially since you can't repair any of your gear or even upgrade them past a very basic level.

Either way, it's true that the game can be too easy, especially if you're not actively make playstyle choices that would hamper your own power.

[lucent]

Ever since people started making movies with their phones,

I appreciate games like this. Not for the difficulty, but for the imagination you can't get in a 2hr movie anymore.

[lily40k]

Originally posted by Something about Watermelons:

Choosing Typhon powers exclusively actually make the game much harder. The human trees have too many useful options, including options for increasing you Psi pool and general survivability, while Typhon trees only offer abilities that cost Psi, and some specialized damage resistance.
Not using human skills also ends up limiting your inventory space, making resource management ( if not scarcity ) more important, especially since you can't repair any of your gear or even upgrade them past a very basic level.

Either way, it's true that the game can be too easy, especially if you're not actively make playstyle choices that would hamper your own power.

i see, so i accidentally chose the OP option, by choosing human route... which is unintuitive since its about alien creatures, my intuition was that choosing to have their powers will make me much more powerful. Its kinda lame if youre being attacked by spicies inferior to your own :D

I guess i'll just finish the story and be done with it. Imo its not worth replaying, too much running around for quests. I just feel this could be such a better game if there was some more deadspace/halflife sauce in it. Which is hard to get right.

[Crypto Gamer]

Typhon route is mostly harder cause you can not upgrade max hp,and inventory space and psi pool and psi medkits even tough typhon uses a lot of psi.
So you have less resources and use up more.You can also lvl 3 mimic operators and kill enemies with them to prevent any player hp loss.

That said human combined with typhon is the most op.

Eg.combat focus,typhon skill which deals dmg and prevents enemy psi use,typhon dmg spell(s),blacklash so you are immune to 3 hits,and regen passive so if you take dmg in fourth hit(even tough you are in bullet time) you back up to 25 health.

Use spells get close and shotgun leftover hp or beamcannon nightmare is dead very fast and you are immune to 3 hits and he can not use range spell option due to debuff spell.
Worst case he fired his 3 homing orbs pre debuff in slow motion you got hit by all 3 and took zero damage.

And human has tons of psi pool and heal to use typhon skills almost full non stop.

Nightmare difficulty over "normal" is only 160% dmg taken 80% gained(like hard) from most"healing" items.eg medkits,psi hypos and you deal 80% damage,so enemy is very slightly tougher usually 1 more hit.

The loot amounts crafting cost everything is the SAME on easy to nightmare in prey.

As you take more damage and heal less you use up slightly more stuff.And likely slightly more ammo.Early on it is a very big difference.

System shock 2(also immersive sim) difficulty had same effective hp mobs for all difficulties but highest difficulty had players with much less hp,much less psi poll slightly less static items and random drops had 75% chance of not dropping anything so random loot was 4 times as rare as on normal difficulty.
Repicator(fabricator in prey)was twice as expensive.

And skills cost more so you could unlock less and+hp for sure and maybe+psi gave less numbers than on normal.

This resulted in very intense resource rationing even tough the enemy was same stats on easy as on impossible.

Prey it just some % modifiers applied.

[lily40k]

i didnt know combat focus is typhoon power, it was in human skill tree, but it was very op.
Seems i have a mix build... however i tried using one of the alien powers to squeeze trough door and it always shows a cutscene when you enable the first one, which it didnt when i got combat focus... confusing tbh

[lily40k]

Yeah the % modifiers for each difficulty sucks, but i get why devs do it.
Never heared of system shock, will take a look.

If you know more games in this style (alien/horror survival) please drop the names.
I'm playing metro exodus next (i finished the first two but they were okish, exodus seems to be the witcher 3 in the series).

[Crypto Gamer]

^^^^

Combat focus is human ability,typhon ones are all unlocked by researching aliens.

That said combat focus slows down time including in game timer so debuff or buff effects from typon stuff in practise last longer usually until everything enemy is dead with combat focus on.

System shock 2 is from 1999 Prey took many things from it.Many say Prey is neuroshock.

But SS 2 is much more hardcore due to different modifiers it also has tons of psi skills etc.eg buffs like increased agility,remote hacking,psi healing.

Researching ograns for bonus damage,weapons jam very fast must be maintained which cost exp to learn etc.

Eventually it is going to have an enhanced/remastered edition made by NightDive.
It is more RPG and less FPS and resource need to be rationed very hard.
Just like Prey there are many ways to play eg.hacking enemy turret,charming enemies.
Obviously GFX is dated.

Bioshock series obviously inspired by system shock series as well.

Most FPS heavy with less RPG it has some custom option eg.plasmids,passive stats from tonics,and you can research too via camera very similar to prey research and has limited build orders.

Higher difficulties is simply % modifier like prey and it has slightly less loot.
It is about hard as Prey.All shocks games start with the melee wrentch as default weapon and has 0451 as a code in their games.

Deus ex series another immersive sims game like prey many ways to complete objectives.


Vampire the masqurade bloodlines another(cult classic) immersive sim with vampire player from 7 different class must use unofificial pathches as by default is is ultra buggy.

As above ones many ways to complete quests,eg.seduce,charm use mind control with certain clans.(depending on player build),combat kill them etc.

Very high replay value.Game has no difficulty,difficulty is okay depends on player build.Dialog heavy game.
With tons of RPG elements like System shock 2.
So combat is heavily impacted by exp investments in stats usually you can choose 1.
eg firearms,melee unarmed which also affect in combat feeding chance and claw dmg fro certain clans.

Game is from 2004 using Alpha source engine looks okay with unofficial basic patch.

[lucent]

Good to know all of this. I think I will just start spreading my points in all skills and see how that works out.

Maybe making a bad build will be more of a challenge...hehehe

Seriously, I am use to making average builds in games anyway. When I play a RPG I am never strong in anything. Always go with that jack of all trades. Usually makes for harder fights and more strategy.

Not sure how that will work with this game, but you never know.

[chumface]

Originally posted by Crypto Gamer:

^^^^


System shock 2 is from 1999 Prey took many things from it.Many say Prey is neuroshock.

But SS 2 is much more hardcore due to different modifiers it also has tons of psi skills etc.eg buffs like increased agility,remote hacking,psi healing.

Researching ograns for bonus damage,weapons jam very fast must be maintained which cost exp to learn etc.

Eventually it is going to have an enhanced/remastered edition made by NightDive.
It is more RPG and less FPS and resource need to be rationed very hard.
Just like Prey there are many ways to play eg.hacking enemy turret,charming enemies.
Obviously GFX is dated.

Bioshock series obviously inspired by system shock series as well.

Bioshock made by the same Devs under different name. When it was launched was called "The spiritual successor to SS2".

[Lar Dass]

try playing with the modifiers then

[lily40k]

i had all modifiers on, on hardest difficulty

[Turambar]

I even desactivated hud, I made my first playthrough in nightmare and I must agree, I expected more is a nice game but I expected much more. Alien Isolation is in my opinion better.

[ULTRA]

Yeah the game isn't really hard under any circumstances. If you want a hard Arkane game that will make you spit up then try Dark Messiah on the harder difficulties.

[lily40k]

nice never heared of Dark Messiah, havent played Alien but from what i gather it looked like a hide and seek with the monster.

[miklkit]

Yes Aliens: Isolation is harder as you can not kill the aliens.

I just started a new game and when choosing the first mod, instead of hacking or repair I chose the stronger body and it is a different and harder game.