The Sims™ 3

The Sims™ 3

Epero Jun 29, 2016 @ 10:14am
Game shut down computer
I just bought Sims 3 and many expansisons. Is it waste of money?
I expected after so many years that this game will work now without problems. Since they move to Sims 4.
Game shut down my computer. Not just some "error" message or problems with starting, but shut down whole computer. I never ever have a game which would do that.

It can´t be problem with computer. GeForce GTX 970, 16 GB RAM, 3,40GHz, new drivers.

Many times it turn off computer just after first loading to first menu. So I couldn´t even try to change some settings, or so. And now it starts few times and turn off computer after few minutes. And then again turn off computer after first loading to menu.

Is there any help for this, or it is unplayable and it is defect product?
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Remie Jun 29, 2016 @ 10:39am 
If you're having trouble running it, refund it. Just be sure not to play 2 hours or more, or else your refund is voided, I think. Sorry to hear about your issues :( Works fine for me!
Calton1 Jun 29, 2016 @ 10:43am 
I've never bought any expansion packs (and even they have unresolved bugs within them) but the game itself still can crash/freeze your PC.

EA have no interest in fixing what has been a long-standing problem.

There are many possible workarounds around, some of which might actually work, although not necessarily on Windows 10 - and having decided to decline Microsoft's new Operating Service, I'm sticking with Windows 7.

I did have the DVD for the Sims 3 but, as usual, it developed 'cracks' rendering it unplayable, but even when it was (barely playable) I was forever installing and uninstalling it due this problem to little avail.

Since buying the base game on Steam (patched to 1.67 rather than 1.69) I haven't had any problems - so far. The only change I made after installing was to follow the advice given regarding using D.E.P. to help resolve the problem.

So, bearing in mind that EA have no profitable interest in getting the Sims 3 to run as it should, and it may or may not run on W10, you could keep trying to find a possible solution - some of which have been posted in other threads - or try for a refund as suggested.
Epero Jun 29, 2016 @ 10:54am 
I am still on Windows 7. And it is not so old game. If I would try to start Heretic, or Dune 1, I understand there are problems old games vs new systems, since developers don´t care about gamers and older games. But this is relatively new game.
It is strange. My friend have much less powerfull PC and Sims 3 works perfectly fine there.
Sims 4 is much smaller (which make no sense, since it should be larger. Everyone always want larger cities), so I decided for 3, which was best in series. Pity.
Daus the Kaus Jun 29, 2016 @ 12:07pm 
i don't know if this could help, but i have a problem like this with other games, the solution was something with the BIOS. Altought it could be very risky updating (or just messing with) the BIOS. Hope this help
bikethor Jun 29, 2016 @ 2:36pm 
I'd wonder if your computer runs other 3D Video High Demand games .. where the computer performs completely stable with no issues.. Or is the computer a brand new build, not yet broken in.

New computers can act up, due to fine adjustments needed for memory timing, cpu timing and multiplier tweeks.. or slightly increasing the voltage for memory chips and/or CPU.

Sounds like you have an awesome computer.
N4SiR Jun 29, 2016 @ 5:38pm 
Try the Nraas Mods, they fix alot of Sims 3s problems,.. If you have Island Paradise EPyoull want the "fixed" world.

A little googling around and you can find most of the tweaks this game need to run great.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=215653558

Scroll down to Nraas mods
Minimally Id suggest mastercontroller,overwatch and errortrap mods.
Last edited by N4SiR; Jun 29, 2016 @ 5:40pm
cruinne Jun 29, 2016 @ 6:04pm 
Originally posted by Epero:
Game shut down my computer. Not just some "error" message or problems with starting, but shut down whole computer. I never ever have a game which would do that.

It can´t be problem with computer. GeForce GTX 970, 16 GB RAM, 3,40GHz, new drivers

So... the problem might be the computer is "too good" for the game. Sims 3 has no in-built control over framerate. A machine with a good graphic card then has a good chance of overheating due to out-of-control framerate, and when that happens it'll just shut down with no warning or error message.

(You can also monitor your video card and CPU temperature using a program like Piriform's Speccy[www.piriform.com].)

The first thing to do is to turn vsync on for the game - open the NVidia control panel and under 3-D settings, find Sims 3 (and if it isn't there, add it), then scroll to the bottom of the settings and enable vertical sync for the game.

Beyond that, as someone above suggested, the NRaas Overwatch mod is always a good idea to keep the game in check so that it doesn't do crazy things and overburden the machine. No matter how good the machine is, Sims 3 is a 32-bit game and it can only use a fraction of your RAM, which is another issue - it can cause crashes by getting too many SIms stuck and the available CPU and RAM it has access too can't keep up. (Overwatch helps prevent that.)
Last edited by cruinne; Jun 29, 2016 @ 6:06pm
KitseKune Jun 29, 2016 @ 6:31pm 
Ok, I just got this game, I got the pet bundle and loaded it up, everything was going fine, but once I got to the create a Sim screen, it stopped working, I can't refund this nor do I want to, so please help, how can I fix this and make it stop craching?
bikethor Jun 29, 2016 @ 7:08pm 
I can think of at least 20 differant things that could contribute to the problems described by the OP, but without more detailed information I will not be much help.

Most of my expertise is with computer hardware and a long history as a PC Gamer.

I see some of you are very helpful, knowledgeable and "specialised in Sim 3" issues which has been a big help to me at times.

@shadowkitten0516 I'd suggest following some of the troubleshooting guides these kind people have posted in many recent threads. My first thoughts would be video settings-driver issues, or game installation and update issues.
KitseKune Jun 29, 2016 @ 9:01pm 
I don't know how to find any of that. That's my biggest issue
KitseKune Jun 29, 2016 @ 9:01pm 
I've never PC gamed much till I found out castle crashes was on here then I got into more games this is the only one giving me issues
bikethor Jun 29, 2016 @ 10:09pm 
See that guy above here in this thread named "cruinne" ?

Search that name in the Sims 3 forums .. In his posts he has links to a troubleShooting guide he made. It's very well done.

In the guide, there is tons of information and learning to be done.

If the info is too overwhelming, I have a quick easier fix to try that might fix most problems. I believe if you uninstall All Sims 3 games and content, then delete all Sims 3 folders and files, then reInstall all your Sims 3 back .. that will fix most problems.

Be sure to make a copy of your savegames in a safe location before you uninstall everything.

The other guy in the Sims 3 forums named "marstinson" is also awesome. Search the Sims 3 forums for his name, he also seems to be an expert getting Sims 3 to run properly.

Read the posts in Sims 3 Steam forums these guys make.

It's very difficult to help everyone individually, especially since the big Sims 3 SALE .. there's tons of gamers suddenly needing help.

Last edited by bikethor; Jun 29, 2016 @ 10:17pm
Epero Jun 30, 2016 @ 12:58am 
Since they still sell this game and not cheap (outside summer sales) and with many expansions also not cheap, they (EA) should have fix all major probles themselves through patches/ updates. Or made some GOTY edition, or Gold Version with everything together and again - with fixed issues.

Are we past the times when companies cared about their products quality and about their customers satisfaction?
Thank you for tips. But when I buy game, I expect it to run smoothly, not to install mods, change BIOS, computer settings, run additional programms to make it work. Easy installations of games, patches, updates, DLC´s was main advantage of Steam itself.
If there is just small switching in some options, or downloading concret mod for TES so it looks endurable (Bethesda didn´t bother with how their games looks, they let it on fans. But at least their games works), it is OK. But to be amateur programmer for running a game - no thank you.

What will be in about 10 years, on Windows 15: NSA special edition? With many newer, better looking games not so many people are interested in really old games (old like Doom, Duken Nukem, Popoulous, etc). But there are many great games which still looks great from last 10, or 15 years. Will we have steam libraries full of unplayable games?
Or if some companies banrkupt and their games will be unplayable, since their servers (like uplay, or origin) wouldn´t work anymore?
I know that Steam doesn´t have to care about this. But maybe they should have some means to change it, or modifie games, at least the most playable and most selling, like Sims, KOTOR, etc.
cruinne Jun 30, 2016 @ 6:24am 
@bikethor She. cruinne is a she. Assumptions are fun! :rfacepalm: But thank-you for the plug :pandashocked:

@shadowkittin0516 I will link my troubleshooting guide below. It's really long, I know, but that's because the game is freakin' huge and so many things can go wrong with it. If you start at the beginning, it will explain some things that are useful to know. It can be worth it to take it slow and don't get too freaked out if you don't understand something.

You may need to update your graphics drivers, so pay attention to section 3.1 It may help you to run in "windowed mode" while in Create-a-Sim as this is less stressful to your computer - see section 3.5. And finally, it may help just to go into options and turn reflections off since those often cause crashes.

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=279488894

@Epero It's hard to argue with you on the idea that the game companies should, at minimim, fix long outstanding bugs in their game. But EA is likely the company best known for not doing that, and it's been widely known for a good 7 years now that Sims 3 has these problems. Nearly any research (or looking at this forum) before buying the game would show this.

Really, I have been PC gaming since my first PC, way back in the late 80s, and it has been extremely rare that I haven't had to tweak something or apply odd patches to get any game going. It's not good, and it shouldn't be that way, but it is what it is. But I know that when I buy an absolutely massive game like Sims 3, I might have to do some wrangling to get it to work and that's just the way it works.

Part of this is the fault of the game companies for chasing profit and the "next big title" instead of quality and customer service. Part of this is right in the laps of us fans and users since we will continue to buy things from them despite their shoddy offerings and we don't simply demand better - or file class action suits when a major release is so broken that we all spend hours of our time trying to get something like the game we were promised out of it.

And a part of it is the problem that games like this are out there trying to run on countless hardware and software configurations and no game company can really be expected to test every single one of them, especially with so many companies out there selling cheap, but wholly inadequate, hardware and laptops. Oh, and a surprisingly large part of those "countless configurations" involve an army users who don't really know how to properly use their computers, who do no maintenance to keep their machines running, who install a bunch of crapware and bloatware, who pirate games and movies like crazy, and who don't use proper precautions and so have machines that are also full of malware and viruses.

So, TL;DR: It is what it is. If you want the game to work, you'll need to take a few troubleshooting steps like I outlined in my post to you, above. It's up to you.
Last edited by cruinne; Jun 30, 2016 @ 6:47am
Epero Jun 30, 2016 @ 12:32pm 
Crunine: Yes, I tried some thigs to make it run. I also try few tips from this same Troubleshooting walkthrough. This wasn´t the first game which make me problems. One originally bought game I was able to play only with crack (thanks pirates). So I didn´t surrender immediately. But eventually I realized that this was problem above my level of technical skills.

Sad is that we can´t do anything about it. Of course we will love CD Project for their approach to customers with Witcher (so far), but we will still buy also games from other companies. And people will never be so united to boycott some company. Gamers aren´t NRA.
Good reputation isn´t very important, as far as they make lots of money. Same as tv networks don´t care that fans are angry because they canceled another show with cliffhanger.

Of course it couldn´t be possible to test games on every possible configuration. But at least major things like graphic cards (AMD, GeForce), system (Windows 7, 8, 10, etc), main processors, and so on. But mostly I think problem is only with systmes and graphic cards. They change things most. And since microsoft wouldn´t make their windows compatible with games, it is on game developers to updated their games.
Or adjust them for newer parameters. Like in Sims 3 was also with high resolutin Status bar so small that text was almost unreadable.
People still buy some old games. So if they knew that they ar working and will be playable on new windows, they still buy it. It isn´t as great money as for example new GTA 5, but it is still money.
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Date Posted: Jun 29, 2016 @ 10:14am
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