Sims 3 vs Sims 4

[Aviana]

I bought the Sims 4 when it came out in full price, I played with it a little bit and got bored soon after so I deleted it from my computer and continued playing the Sims 3.

A few months later, Origin decided to offer the game for free which made me cringe - you see, if I had waited I would have gotten the game free of charge. Urgh.

I didn't play the Sims 4 for another year or so, then decided to give it another chance. I went into CAS, made a family, picked a town and started playing. After a short amount of time I was yet again bored with it. After playing with it I realized why I didn't like it. The looks in the Sims 4 are great - there's no doubt about it but the game lacks SO MUCH content it is virtually unplayable. The Sims 4 is just looks and nothing else and honestly, it is like a horrible mirror into today's society - obnoxious sims taking photos of their meals, posting them on 'Simstagram', sims that look awfully well even when they're supposed to be sad. The Sims 4 is everything I hate about today's world. Yuck.

Now, EA has expanded to Steam and if offering the game for 4,79EUR. I wonder if they have themselved realized that the game just doesn't bring enough revenue.

I, yet again, deleted the game since there was no reason for it to take up space on my computer and went back to the Sims 3.

I wonder how you folks feel about the Sims 4? Have any of you bought it and its' other 'expansions'? Are you still playing it or do you still prefer the Sims 3 like me?

Would love to hear from you

[VerdiusArcana (Castaway.tf)]

Sims 3 is better. Sims 4 was like devolving to the stone age. EA sucks ♥♥♥♥♥ and truly are among the 4 dark ones of ruining gaming (The other 3 being Activision, Ubisoft and Microsoft) where EA reigns supreme for being the biggest ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ on the entire planet.

It's like they have a "Council of being ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥" where EA every day asks themself and the others the question: "How can we milk the whales and screw over our sheep customers today hmmm?"

[Aviana]

Początkowo opublikowane przez VerdiusArcana:

Sims 3 is better. Sims 4 was like devolving to the stone age. EA sucks ♥♥♥♥♥ and truly are among the 4 dark ones of ruining gaming (The other 3 being Activision, Ubisoft and Microsoft) where EA reigns supreme for being the biggest ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ on the entire planet.

It's like they have a "Council of being ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥" where EA every day asks themself and the others the question: "How can we milk the whales and screw over our sheep customers today hmmm?"

Very well said, I think we can all agree that EA are greedy AF.

[Ody]

Honestly, the only bad thing about Sims 3 is the EA logo it carries with itself. That's about it.

[xx20]

I never understood why the Sims 4 has such positive reviews on Steam. The game is nowhere near the levels of Sims 3 or Sims 2. The only improvements are the build mode and graphics. I always find it funny how 95 percent of the time, whenever something new is released, the Game Changer Sims YouTubers always focuses their praise on the build mode items, like "Wow, this fridge will look so cute in my build!" rather than focusing on its lacklustre content and lack of innovation. Yes, perhaps you can make that fridge fit well in your 100th Modern House build, but what about changes that actually enriches the gameplay?

I honestly question how they, most if not all of them being Sims players since the Sims 1, can continue praising the Sims 4 when they should be the first to be able to tell that the Sims 4 is simply an inferior game to its last two predecessors. EA is treating the Sims 4 more like a house renovation simulator than life simulator, and these Game Changer YouTubers are only playing into it.

[Aviana]

Początkowo opublikowane przez xx20:

I never understood why the Sims 4 has such positive reviews on Steam. The game is nowhere near the levels of Sims 3 or Sims 2. The only improvements are the build mode and graphics. I always find it funny how 95 percent of the time, whenever something new is released, the Game Changer Sims YouTubers always focuses their praise on the build mode items, like "Wow, this fridge will look so cute in my build!" rather than focusing on its lacklustre content and lack of innovation. Yes, perhaps you can make that fridge fit well in your 100th Modern House build, but what about changes that actually enriches the gameplay?

I honestly question how they, most if not all of them being Sims players since the Sims 1, can continue praising the Sims 4 when they should be the first to be able to tell that the Sims 4 is simply an inferior game to its last two predecessors. EA is treating the Sims 4 more like a house renovation simulator than life simulator, and these Game Changer YouTubers are only playing into it.

Couldn't have said it better myself. I've also noticed how EA are focusing on making the game look good with all these items but the gameplay is just missing.

So, I'm sorry but I'm not that shallow to play a nice looking game with no gameplay whatsoever. Most of the time when I play the Sims 4 I just sit there and do nothing because I get bored in less than 10 minutes.

I think the Sims 4 franchise is a total failure & these gamechangers are nothing but puppets for EA. I don't like any of them anyways. I will never buy any pack from the Sims 4 and will continue playing the Sims 2 and 3 because they at least have something to offer.

[xx20]

Początkowo opublikowane przez Aviana:

Początkowo opublikowane przez xx20:

I never understood why the Sims 4 has such positive reviews on Steam. The game is nowhere near the levels of Sims 3 or Sims 2. The only improvements are the build mode and graphics. I always find it funny how 95 percent of the time, whenever something new is released, the Game Changer Sims YouTubers always focuses their praise on the build mode items, like "Wow, this fridge will look so cute in my build!" rather than focusing on its lacklustre content and lack of innovation. Yes, perhaps you can make that fridge fit well in your 100th Modern House build, but what about changes that actually enriches the gameplay?

I honestly question how they, most if not all of them being Sims players since the Sims 1, can continue praising the Sims 4 when they should be the first to be able to tell that the Sims 4 is simply an inferior game to its last two predecessors. EA is treating the Sims 4 more like a house renovation simulator than life simulator, and these Game Changer YouTubers are only playing into it.

Couldn't have said it better myself. I've also noticed how EA are focusing on making the game look good with all these items but the gameplay is just missing.

So, I'm sorry but I'm not that shallow to play a nice looking game with no gameplay whatsoever. Most of the time when I play the Sims 4 I just sit there and do nothing because I get bored in less than 10 minutes.

I think the Sims 4 franchise is a total failure & these gamechangers are nothing but puppets for EA. I don't like any of them anyways. I will never buy any pack from the Sims 4 and will continue playing the Sims 2 and 3 because they at least have something to offer.

And just like puppets, they're completely soulless. Even during the whole Kits fiasco, they've kept their criticisms bare-bones and minimal despite their comments sections saying otherwise. Hell, even the Journey to Batuu game pack was received well by some Game Changers.

It's sad how these people are supposed to be the gateway of communication between the fans and EA - no wonder most people playing the Sims 4 right now are either new players who never played, or can't play, the Sims 2 or 3, or people who like building houses. I don't know if you know him, but LazyGameReviews (or LGR) was once a Game Changer but he got kicked out because he was actually truthful and upfront. EA is an absolute joke.

[Aviana]

Początkowo opublikowane przez xx20:

Początkowo opublikowane przez Aviana:

Couldn't have said it better myself. I've also noticed how EA are focusing on making the game look good with all these items but the gameplay is just missing.

So, I'm sorry but I'm not that shallow to play a nice looking game with no gameplay whatsoever. Most of the time when I play the Sims 4 I just sit there and do nothing because I get bored in less than 10 minutes.

I think the Sims 4 franchise is a total failure & these gamechangers are nothing but puppets for EA. I don't like any of them anyways. I will never buy any pack from the Sims 4 and will continue playing the Sims 2 and 3 because they at least have something to offer.

And just like puppets, they're completely soulless. Even during the whole Kits fiasco, they've kept their criticisms bare-bones and minimal despite their comments sections saying otherwise. Hell, even the Journey to Batuu game pack was received well by some Game Changers.

It's sad how these people are supposed to be the gateway of communication between the fans and EA - no wonder most people playing the Sims 4 right now are either new players who never played, or can't play, the Sims 2 or 3, or people who like building houses. I don't know if you know him, but LazyGameReviews (or LGR) was once a Game Changer but he got kicked out because he was actually truthful and upfront. EA is an absolute joke.

Wow, I didn't know he was a gamechanger before but I've literally watched all his Sims reviews and I love them exactly because of his honesty. But then again, the fact that he was kicked out shows you how well EA deals with honesty.

[HiFive]

What does "gamechanger" mean in this context? I'm clueless. I tried to google it but I come up with stuff that doesn't seem to fit for whatever you folks are referring to.

[xx20]

Początkowo opublikowane przez HiFive:

What does "gamechanger" mean in this context? I'm clueless. I tried to google it but I come up with stuff that doesn't seem to fit for whatever you folks are referring to.

EA Gamechangers are YouTubers who are 'sponsored' by EA to receive whatever content from the game they're specialized in (i.e the Sims) early for reviews so that they could give feedback from themselves and from the fans. Think of it as a mixture of a game tester, salesperson and spokesperson/representative; they show the fans what's coming next and, let's face it, overhype it all, give feedback to that DLC and for future endeavours and tell the developers directly what the fans are happy and unhappy about.

On paper they're supposed to be fan-first all the way but if you've looked at their videos on controversies like Journey to Batuu or My First Pet Stuff, you'd find that most GameChangers' criticisms are far less muted compared to fans' to even praise, and are usually full of excuses for EA's laziness and lack of care for the series. You'd know they're a GameChanger because at the start of most of their videos, especially on reviews, they'd start the video by saying something among the lines of "This video is sponsored by EA GameChangers".

If you want some examples, Plumbella, Lil Simsie and TheSimSupply pops in my mind, but I'm sure there's tons more. I should probably note that even though most of them are soulless when it comes to EA, they're not necessarily bad YouTubers. It's just frustrating to see EA get away with their BS time and time again because they're in an echo chamber of praise and love, least helped by these GameChangers. If you want a honest ex-GameChanger, I'd recommend Lazy Game Reviews. He's stopped his Sims 4 reviews after Snowy Escape because of how dire things are on that game, but each and every one of his reviews is top notch and honest.

[HiFive]

Początkowo opublikowane przez xx20:

Początkowo opublikowane przez HiFive:

What does "gamechanger" mean in this context? I'm clueless. I tried to google it but I come up with stuff that doesn't seem to fit for whatever you folks are referring to.

EA Gamechangers are YouTubers who are 'sponsored' by EA to receive whatever content from the game they're specialized in (i.e the Sims) early for reviews so that they could give feedback from themselves and from the fans. Think of it as a mixture of a game tester, salesperson and spokesperson/representative; they show the fans what's coming next and, let's face it, overhype it all, give feedback to that DLC and for future endeavours and tell the developers directly what the fans are happy and unhappy about.

On paper they're supposed to be fan-first all the way but if you've looked at their videos on controversies like Journey to Batuu or My First Pet Stuff, you'd find that most GameChangers' criticisms are far less muted compared to fans' to even praise, and are usually full of excuses for EA's laziness and lack of care for the series. You'd know they're a GameChanger because at the start of most of their videos, especially on reviews, they'd start the video by saying something among the lines of "This video is sponsored by EA GameChangers".

If you want some examples, Plumbella, Lil Simsie and TheSimSupply pops in my mind, but I'm sure there's tons more. I should probably note that even though most of them are soulless when it comes to EA, they're not necessarily bad YouTubers. It's just frustrating to see EA get away with their BS time and time again because they're in an echo chamber of praise and love, least helped by these GameChangers. If you want a honest ex-GameChanger, I'd recommend Lazy Game Reviews. He's stopped his Sims 4 reviews after Snowy Escape because of how dire things are on that game, but each and every one of his reviews is top notch and honest.

Thank you for the very good and detailed explanation. I do like the LGR reviews a lot. It seems that EA has gotten themselves some free salespeople that they don't have to pay a salary to.

[ModerNertum]

Początkowo opublikowane przez HiFive:

Początkowo opublikowane przez xx20:

EA Gamechangers are YouTubers who are 'sponsored' by EA to receive whatever content from the game they're specialized in (i.e the Sims) early for reviews so that they could give feedback from themselves and from the fans. Think of it as a mixture of a game tester, salesperson and spokesperson/representative; they show the fans what's coming next and, let's face it, overhype it all, give feedback to that DLC and for future endeavours and tell the developers directly what the fans are happy and unhappy about.

On paper they're supposed to be fan-first all the way but if you've looked at their videos on controversies like Journey to Batuu or My First Pet Stuff, you'd find that most GameChangers' criticisms are far less muted compared to fans' to even praise, and are usually full of excuses for EA's laziness and lack of care for the series. You'd know they're a GameChanger because at the start of most of their videos, especially on reviews, they'd start the video by saying something among the lines of "This video is sponsored by EA GameChangers".

If you want some examples, Plumbella, Lil Simsie and TheSimSupply pops in my mind, but I'm sure there's tons more. I should probably note that even though most of them are soulless when it comes to EA, they're not necessarily bad YouTubers. It's just frustrating to see EA get away with their BS time and time again because they're in an echo chamber of praise and love, least helped by these GameChangers. If you want a honest ex-GameChanger, I'd recommend Lazy Game Reviews. He's stopped his Sims 4 reviews after Snowy Escape because of how dire things are on that game, but each and every one of his reviews is top notch and honest.

Thank you for the very good and detailed explanation. I do like the LGR reviews a lot. It seems that EA has gotten themselves some free salespeople that they don't have to pay a salary to.

I think LGR is not a Sims gamechanger since he has his own opinion on reviews and is not always positive on content (especially that content that is universally known by the community as bad or very bad). I think he was one of those cases where EA stopped sending him free codes to review Sims content because his reviews are too honest and accurate.

[joryma]

Coming from someone who likes the Sims 4, Sims 3 was a much better game in almost every respect.

[HiFive]

I'll add this. I tried the Sims 4 base game for a little while, then I wanted to get on Sims 3 to help someone with a question on the Discussions pages. I quickly found myself missing the huge open world of Sims 3 and started playing it again. Given how very expensive the content is for either game, and how much more I enjoy Sims 3, I see no reason to spend a lot of money on Sims 4 to flesh it out when I already have Sims 3.

[Rathia]

The problem with Sims 4 DLCs is that they just add more. They don't necessarily add new, or add better, it's just *more.*

Some slight aesthetic variations on existing build mode items, new patterns or colours on clothing, even hairstyles have some near-clones.

The gameplay that DLCs provide, regardless of their size as a Pack or an Expansion, is largely negligible. New careers aren't nearly as exciting or involving as trailers would have you believe because everything flows according to the base game and its limited AI.

Instead of refining and improving on existing systems, they just throw more onto the pile. That'll be $50, enjoy raising another skill to 10 for some emotes.

[ModerNertum]

Początkowo opublikowane przez Rathia:

The problem with Sims 4 DLCs is that they just add more. They don't necessarily add new, or add better, it's just *more.*

Some slight aesthetic variations on existing build mode items, new patterns or colours on clothing, even hairstyles have some near-clones.

The gameplay that DLCs provide, regardless of their size as a Pack or an Expansion, is largely negligible. New careers aren't nearly as exciting or involving as trailers would have you believe because everything flows according to the base game and its limited AI.

Instead of refining and improving on existing systems, they just throw more onto the pile. That'll be $50, enjoy raising another skill to 10 for some emotes.

Yes, thats the feeling people have with the game when they say its being milked for every cent. They only add more. Even in 2021, for a game that is a 2014 title. Because its easier to do this than do a brand new game and close the last title DLC content. Its hard to do innovation and give us Sims 5 with the personalities of Sims 2, open world of Sims 3 and build/buy mode of Sims 4 and without performance issues. Thats how hard EA has fallen with this franchise, unfortunately :(