The Sims™ 3

The Sims™ 3

Frozen Esper Oct 15, 2017 @ 2:17am
Can anyone actually run this with no lag or no camera stutter?
Can anyone actually run this with no lag or no camera stutter with a a few expansion activated?
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SpaShadow Oct 15, 2017 @ 3:08am 
it's impossible really since the game needs a ♥♥♥♥ ton of ram to work but EA limited to a 32bit game. meaning it has like a 4GB of ram I think? and that is after to mess with the files to double the normal amount of ram it has but yeah it can't ever be lag free until someone makes a 64 shell. Which I think someone was doing but we haven't heard any updates in years.
Haeloth Oct 15, 2017 @ 4:20am 
I have a computer which is 6 years old. (It has a 1st generation Core i3 processor, and also GeForce 310m as GPU + 6 GB ram) I have Ambitions, Generations, Pets, Showtime, Supernatural and University Life + plenty of store content. But I don't use any kind of CC (I don't like CC, most of them look out of place compared to the rest of the game.) I have NRaas Overwatch and ErrorTrap enabled (+a ton of other NRaas mods and other mods as well.)

My game only uses 1.4 GB of ram at max and runs superfine without any lag whatsoever in Sunset Valley. Well the only lag I have in game is at 3 AM (Overwatch cleanup time and it takes about 1 second) and 5 AM (Plant grow up time, all plants in your town will grow up at this hour. It lasts about 2-3 seconds if I have a lot of plants, usually doesn't even last a second) I don't have any crashes whatsover, no lag, it tooks at max 1 and a half minute to finish a day on speed 3.

Have to note that this depends on the town you are playing. If you want to play a game as complex as TS3 on a very large world with a huge population then I am afraid the game might not perform as well as when you use a small and stable world. (That is okay for me because I don't like large towns anyway.) Or if a world is has bad routing whatsoever no matter how small it is it doesn't perform that well, such as Bridgeport, Sims University, or Isla Paradiso (I know Bridgeport and Isla Paradiso from my experiences at Origin. I have all of the EPs and SPs, even Katy Perry, on Origin, but I have only those I have listed above on Steam)

To improve your performance try to play in a smaller and more stable world, such as Sunset Valley, Riverview (most stable official towns are these, as far as my experience goes), Moonlight Falls, Monte Vista etc... (these two are ok and stable enough to play in them but not as much as the first two). Also have a look at these tips:
http://nraas.wikispaces.com/TIPS+FOR+BETTER+GAME+PERFORMANCE
Last edited by Haeloth; Oct 15, 2017 @ 4:21am
cruinne Oct 15, 2017 @ 6:09am 
I just want to echo what Haeloth says. NRaas Overwatch is absolutely crucial (and I consider NRaas ErrorTrap to be equally crucial, but not for lag reasons). My computer is newer - an i7 with 16 gig RAM and a 4 gig video card - but with proper set up most capable computers can run the game nearly lag free. Some older ones will even run it better than newer ones.

The only moment of lag I see is the 3 AM cleanup by Overwatch, but it's worth it to avoid longer bouts of lag later while the game bogs down and tries to figure out routing for a dozen stuck Sims around the neighborhood. FWIW, I play with all SPs and EPs except Island Paradise and Into the Future, and a bit of custom content (default skin and hair replacements).

My only real advice to add to the above:
  • if you do want to use a larger town, look for a "user fixed" version somewhere like ModTheSims - a lot of the default worlds have sticking points and some users have been kind enough to repaint the paths and reorganize the town to improve performance. If you're using Island Paradise, this is a "must" as it is notoriously bad in its default state.

  • Be sure to turn off "Enable Online Notifications" - for me, this was the biggest source of lag in my game as the game would pause while EA's servers were slow to talk back to the game. I also suggest turning off "Enable Shop Mode" unless you're specifically going into Buy Mode in order to shop at the Sims 3 store. (Again, the game can lag while EA s-l-o-w-l-y streams "suggest sell" content into your game.)
Last edited by cruinne; Oct 15, 2017 @ 6:11am
Frozen Esper Oct 15, 2017 @ 6:50pm 
Thanks guys, I tried everything but I still get lag and that camera stuttering when I pan, even on low settings with only two expanisions selected (ambitions and seasons) it happens. My system specs include: i7-6700, GTX 970, 32GB Ram, Windows 10.
Last edited by Frozen Esper; Oct 16, 2017 @ 1:09am
Haeloth Oct 15, 2017 @ 11:44pm 
Originally posted by Maximus:
Thanks guys, I tried everything but I still get lag and that camera stuttering when I pan, even on low settings with only two expanisions selected (ambitions and seasons) it happens. My system specs include: i7-6700, GTX 970, 32GB Ram, Windows 19.
Your system seems pretty advanced, maybe it is because of VSync or something like that? I never had to use that because of my potato PC, but it seems like that might be the issue, but I might be wrong as well.
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=279488894
Check 5.2
Hopefully this helps :)
Zefnoly Oct 16, 2017 @ 5:52am 
I also have i7-6700k and GTX 960 4GB and 16GB DDR4 RAM. The game uses less than 2 GB RAM in hidden springs with all expansions enabled. I have 1-2 stash expansions and all the major expansions.

The game runs 60-120fps with all settings maxed. Including max amount of loaded plots (I were thinking having less loaded plots at once would instead cause more often loads and my hardware should handle the rendering of more)

The only problems I have is the camera freezes occasionally were all the rendering and animation seems to go on (water effects, trees waving, other effects) keeps animating but the simulation time seems to stop. Some UI elements even seems to have some effect but unresponsive during the lags. Camera also glitches around when I move it around. It randomly moves slower or faster. During building I also have some camera controll oddities.
cruinne Oct 16, 2017 @ 6:16am 
Definitely install NRaas Overwatch if you haven't (it helps clear up the animations-continue-but-game-sticks issue), and again, as above, section 5.2 of the guide to help with camera glitches when moving.
Multihog Oct 19, 2017 @ 3:04am 
Originally posted by Zefnoly:
The only problems I have is the camera freezes occasionally were all the rendering and animation seems to go on (water effects, trees waving, other effects) keeps animating but the simulation time seems to stop.
Yes, everyone has this problem, and those who don't consider it a serious problem just have an insane tolerance for choppy gameplay. This problem is fundamental, and I'm sure there is no fix for it no other than rebuilding the entire game. Every single footage that I've seen of this game being played has had this issue. i3 or i7, 2GB or 100GB RAM, integrated graphics or GTX 1080 ti, no difference. You can fire up a random Twitch stream of someone streaming this game, and I can guarantee that you'll see heavy stuttering (I did that just today.)

I've played this game on four different PCs with completely different hardware (different AMD/ATI and Nvidia GPUs and CPUs): A laptop from 2007, a desktop from 2009, a desktop from 2011, and a desktop from 2017. The freezing (camera and simulation stop, some animations such as trees continue) issue has been there with every single one. In fact, that 2007 laptop with some garbage Dual Core ran the game pretty much equally well/poorly as my new PC.

Yes, I have nraas (I know how to reset my town). Yes, I've deleted cache. Yes, I've tried compatibility mode. Yes, I've tried SSD. Yes, I've combined my package files. Yes, I've tried lowering my graphics. Yes, I've done every single ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ thing you could possibly suggest me.

Here's my current PC, and the game runs like ♥♥♥♥.

Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-6600K CPU @ 3.50GHz (4 CPUs), ~3.5GHz
Card name: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060 6GB
Memory: 16384MB RAM

Can anyone actually run this with no lag or no camera stutter?
In short, no. I'm quite convinced there isn't a single PC in existence that can run this game smoothly. Those who say otherwise just have low standards, a vanilla game, or are straight up lying.

If anyone disagrees, run both Sims 4 and 3 side by side, and then tell me 3 doesn't run like ♥♥♥♥. I think I'm finally throwing in the towel and moving on to Sims 4. The lag and stuttering of Sims 3 despite exceeding the system requirements 10 times is giving me conniptions.
Last edited by Multihog; Oct 19, 2017 @ 4:01am
Zefnoly Oct 19, 2017 @ 5:22am 
Originally posted by Multihog:
Originally posted by Zefnoly:
The only problems I have is the camera freezes occasionally were all the rendering and animation seems to go on (water effects, trees waving, other effects) keeps animating but the simulation time seems to stop.
Yes, everyone has this problem, and those who don't consider it a serious problem just have an insane tolerance for choppy gameplay. This problem is fundamental, and I'm sure there is no fix for it no other than rebuilding the entire game. Every single footage that I've seen of this game being played has had this issue. i3 or i7, 2GB or 100GB RAM, integrated graphics or GTX 1080 ti, no difference. You can fire up a random Twitch stream of someone streaming this game, and I can guarantee that you'll see heavy stuttering (I did that just today.)

I've played this game on four different PCs with completely different hardware (different AMD/ATI and Nvidia GPUs and CPUs): A laptop from 2007, a desktop from 2009, a desktop from 2011, and a desktop from 2017. The freezing (camera and simulation stop, some animations such as trees continue) issue has been there with every single one. In fact, that 2007 laptop with some garbage Dual Core ran the game pretty much equally well/poorly as my new PC.

Yes, I have nraas (I know how to reset my town). Yes, I've deleted cache. Yes, I've tried compatibility mode. Yes, I've tried SSD. Yes, I've combined my package files. Yes, I've tried lowering my graphics. Yes, I've done every single ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ thing you could possibly suggest me.

Here's my current PC, and the game runs like ♥♥♥♥.

Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-6600K CPU @ 3.50GHz (4 CPUs), ~3.5GHz
Card name: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060 6GB
Memory: 16384MB RAM

Can anyone actually run this with no lag or no camera stutter?
In short, no. I'm quite convinced there isn't a single PC in existence that can run this game smoothly. Those who say otherwise just have low standards, a vanilla game, or are straight up lying.

If anyone disagrees, run both Sims 4 and 3 side by side, and then tell me 3 doesn't run like ♥♥♥♥. I think I'm finally throwing in the towel and moving on to Sims 4. The lag and stuttering of Sims 3 despite exceeding the system requirements 10 times is giving me conniptions.
Like you I have a i7 6700k on 4Ghz+ running the game. It has the same performance on lowest and highest graphics. It looked like Nraas error trap and overwatch improved the game but im not sure if it has fixed the freezes yet. And I guess not.

I remember when the game came out it was so horribly coded saves often corrupted after 2-3 times and 80% of the times I tried to save it failed. (got fixed later on) but this was back in 2009-2010 when it first came out.
Multihog Oct 19, 2017 @ 8:56am 
Originally posted by Zefnoly:
Originally posted by Multihog:
Yes, everyone has this problem, and those who don't consider it a serious problem just have an insane tolerance for choppy gameplay. This problem is fundamental, and I'm sure there is no fix for it no other than rebuilding the entire game. Every single footage that I've seen of this game being played has had this issue. i3 or i7, 2GB or 100GB RAM, integrated graphics or GTX 1080 ti, no difference. You can fire up a random Twitch stream of someone streaming this game, and I can guarantee that you'll see heavy stuttering (I did that just today.)

I've played this game on four different PCs with completely different hardware (different AMD/ATI and Nvidia GPUs and CPUs): A laptop from 2007, a desktop from 2009, a desktop from 2011, and a desktop from 2017. The freezing (camera and simulation stop, some animations such as trees continue) issue has been there with every single one. In fact, that 2007 laptop with some garbage Dual Core ran the game pretty much equally well/poorly as my new PC.

Yes, I have nraas (I know how to reset my town). Yes, I've deleted cache. Yes, I've tried compatibility mode. Yes, I've tried SSD. Yes, I've combined my package files. Yes, I've tried lowering my graphics. Yes, I've done every single ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ thing you could possibly suggest me.

Here's my current PC, and the game runs like ♥♥♥♥.

Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-6600K CPU @ 3.50GHz (4 CPUs), ~3.5GHz
Card name: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060 6GB
Memory: 16384MB RAM


In short, no. I'm quite convinced there isn't a single PC in existence that can run this game smoothly. Those who say otherwise just have low standards, a vanilla game, or are straight up lying.

If anyone disagrees, run both Sims 4 and 3 side by side, and then tell me 3 doesn't run like ♥♥♥♥. I think I'm finally throwing in the towel and moving on to Sims 4. The lag and stuttering of Sims 3 despite exceeding the system requirements 10 times is giving me conniptions.
Like you I have a i7 6700k on 4Ghz+ running the game. It has the same performance on lowest and highest graphics. It looked like Nraas error trap and overwatch improved the game but im not sure if it has fixed the freezes yet. And I guess not.

I remember when the game came out it was so horribly coded saves often corrupted after 2-3 times and 80% of the times I tried to save it failed. (got fixed later on) but this was back in 2009-2010 when it first came out.
Those nraas mods somewhat improve the situation, but eventually the lag gets unbearable. I'm 3 families into a save now, and I've reached the point where the save file is GG. The game locks up every 2-5 seconds for multiple seconds. It takes 5x the time it should take to get through one sim-day. The spaghetti code has tangled itself into a FUBAR state. The bugs, errors, and other problems have been piling up non-stop in the background, and now the game can't handle it anymore.

I play the game in windowed mode, queue up my commands, alt tab to watch a Twitch stream, and come back 10 minutes later. It feels like a multiplayer game of Civilization at this point. Nothing helps; I've tried resetting everything etc. I guess I'll need to start a new save game if I am to play this game.

It has the same performance on lowest and highest graphics
Yeah, you can max the game out. You're gaining nothing by lowering the settings. The lag has nothing to do with that.
Last edited by Multihog; Oct 19, 2017 @ 9:09am
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