999: questions about the story\snake (spoilers)

[Lee]

so ive done the submarine ending and in the middle of the Axe killer
i dont care about spoilers

is snake dying in every route?
why is snake dying 2nd and who's killing him ?
and why ace killed them (submarine ending) i googled about who killed them all and every site says it was ace that killed them or who was it

[Tirear]

Seems like a weird place to stop playing and just look up everything, but okay.

1. Yes, except that's not actually snake.
2. Ace was worried that Snake would recognize his voice and expose his past crimes.
3. Killing everyone is probably the best way to be sure that his crimes don't get out. For one thing, it is obvious that Zero knows Ace's crimes, and everyone suspects that Zero must be one of them.

[Lee]

Originally posted by Tirear:

Seems like a weird place to stop playing and just look up everything, but okay.

1. Yes, except that's not actually snake.
2. Ace was worried that Snake would recognize his voice and expose his past crimes.
3. Killing everyone is probably the best way to be sure that his crimes don't get out. For one thing, it is obvious that Zero knows Ace's crimes, and everyone suspects that Zero must be one of them.

im just too curios and i dont care for spoilers lmao
at which route i find out about what you write at no.1 and no.2 ?

[Tirear]

Originally posted by Lee:

at which route i find out about what you write at no.1 and no.2 ?

Well, for just the question of who killed Snake, you already have the clues to guess it in the axe end. Clover claims that at least two people must have worked together to kill him, because it takes three bracelets to open a door. But then she contradicts that by saying she and Junpei can open the [9] door without a third person by using another bracelet she found, and even killing Junpei to take his bracelet when he doesn't cooperate. Since Snake was the second death, there was already a bracelet available for someone to use this way. If you assume the door was opened with Snake's [2] bracelet and unknown guy's [9] bracelet, then Ace with his [1] bracelet is the only person who could have done the crime by himself. This is further supported by the fact that Ace went off with Lotus to show her something, but never came back even though he made it sound like a quick thing. If Ace is the person who took the [9] bracelet, then he can leave through the [9] door with just her help (or by murdering her and taking her bracelet).
That's not the only way they are suspicious. At the second set of doors, Ace agreed to be the only person left behind. After that, going through the [3] door (where Snake's corpse was) was not an option unless you forced the group to accept an outcome where even more people have to stay behind. If someone else had been the one to stay behind, it would change the math and one of the other doors would be the one unexplored. In other words, Ace agreeing to stay behind was the only practical way to keep Snake's body from being discovered immediately.

But for the rest, its in the true route, which is down the same branch as the axe ending but with certain keys from earlier in the flowchart, which are visible now that you have done the axe ending. Completing the true ending will also require having done a certain different ending, but the answers to the questions you asked are in the part before the to be continued.

[Lee]

Originally posted by Tirear:

Originally posted by Lee:

at which route i find out about what you write at no.1 and no.2 ?

Well, for just the question of who killed Snake, you already have the clues to guess it in the axe end. Clover claims that at least two people must have worked together to kill him, because it takes three bracelets to open a door. But then she contradicts that by saying she and Junpei can open the [9] door without a third person by using another bracelet she found, and even killing Junpei to take his bracelet when he doesn't cooperate. Since Snake was the second death, there was already a bracelet available for someone to use this way. If you assume the door was opened with Snake's [2] bracelet and unknown guy's [9] bracelet, then Ace with his [1] bracelet is the only person who could have done the crime by himself. This is further supported by the fact that Ace went off with Lotus to show her something, but never came back even though he made it sound like a quick thing. If Ace is the person who took the [9] bracelet, then he can leave through the [9] door with just her help (or by murdering her and taking her bracelet).
That's not the only way they are suspicious. At the second set of doors, Ace agreed to be the only person left behind. After that, going through the [3] door (where Snake's corpse was) was not an option unless you forced the group to accept an outcome where even more people have to stay behind. If someone else had been the one to stay behind, it would change the math and one of the other doors would be the one unexplored. In other words, Ace agreeing to stay behind was the only practical way to keep Snake's body from being discovered immediately.

But for the rest, its in the true route, which is down the same branch as the axe ending but with certain keys from earlier in the flowchart, which are visible now that you have done the axe ending. Completing the true ending will also require having done a certain different ending, but the answers to the questions you asked are in the part before the to be continued. [/quote]
thanks sm for answering