Parade art

[Arale//Zero]

How come the Parade artwork was redrawn to be more like the rest of the game's art style? For a remaster that seems to want to be as close to the original as possible, it seems strange that Parade's art was the exception. I'm aware this was originally done for the DS port but I'm not really sure why. It can't be that they don't have the art assets anymore because they're in the GhM Art Book and were in high-resolution on TSC's site up until about today.

I highly prefer the original Parade art because its anime-like style is much more surreal than the replacements. I don't have a link to it, but there's one shot of men sitting at a table - in the redone art they're just kind of slightly weird-looking, while in the original they were distorted in a demented Junji Ito-esque style.

The new art still looks great because everything in this game looks great, but I have a feeling that while playing Parade I'll be lamenting this change... an option to choose which one to use would be awesome!

[Deep_wolf]

Well, creators decided that old art wasn't good enough, so they added more black paint to it.

[KingfossilFER]

Actually I believe its stated somewhere that some things were lost and had to be done again. Sadly I cant remember where this came from, tough I believe from the PAX west interviews or TGS 2016.

[Arale//Zero]

I could understand that but as I said, we've seen that they still have Parade's original art. It was on the website just the other day before they updated it. Really wish I saved it when I had the chance >< But it's also in The Art of GhM book. So whatever they lost it wasn't this.

I don't even mind redrawing it if it looks similar, but the Parade redraws look totally different.

I found a comparison of the two art styles. This is from the Art of GhM book. http://66.media.tumblr.com/4267c6eafa54272ac4c71fe86f6b7525/tumblr_npexq4iYBL1tsjzmxo10_1280.jpg

Left is original (in much higher res than seen on the PS1) and right is new. As you can see, Parade originally art changed into a completely different artist's style. In the new art it just looks like the rest of the game but in black and white.

[Deep_wolf]

You care too much about bunch of pictures.

[Arale//Zero]

They're putting so much effort into making the remaster as authentic to the original as possible, so I just don't get why this one part gets changed. It's an amazing game either way of course, I know that. I am just hoping that maybe someone on the port team who knows the answer would see this.

[Deep_wolf]

If it's really bothers you that much, you probably should ask them directly. Go over to AGM site and ask them. Now.

[Eugene]

Originally posted by Arale//Zero:

I found a comparison of the two art styles. This is from the Art of GhM book. http://66.media.tumblr.com/4267c6eafa54272ac4c71fe86f6b7525/tumblr_npexq4iYBL1tsjzmxo10_1280.jpg

Left is original (in much higher res than seen on the PS1) and right is new. As you can see, Parade originally art changed into a completely different artist's style. In the new art it just looks like the rest of the game but in black and white.

I'm in no position to judge the artistic merit of original art, but in my opinion the art on the right page looks far better. So for me this change is a plus.

[Arale//Zero]

It's not really about opinions, just that it's totally different. Look at the scene on the top, the original has these weird distorted figures while the new one makes them look more explicitly like monsters. Or bottom left picture, in original they're looking up at the tower while in new they are just standing around. And the fact that the art style changed at all. Even if you like the art on the right better, it is similar to the rest of the game's art.

[Bootleg Jones]

I feel like the new art completely changes the "feel" of the images, especially the picture of the business men at the table with its warped perspective. The new art loses some impact and the man on the far right doesn't have quite the same wild look in his eyes.

The picture at the top of what looks like soldiers also became a lot more exaggerated. Where the original looks like they could almost be human, the new art looks like they're just straight up zombies now. For someone who's work seem to rely heavily on certain aesthetic choices and creating a certain kind of mood or feeling, I'm surprised Goichi Suda allowed such a drastic change from what I assume was a very deliberate choice in art style.

Now, I'm not actually that familiar with this game, so I don't even know in what context these images are shown in-game. Maybe there was a good reason to change it that I don't know about, but I'd rather not be spoiled.

[cheru]

Originally posted by RiP | FER:

Actually I believe its stated somewhere that some things were lost and had to be done again. Sadly I cant remember where this came from, tough I believe from the PAX west interviews or TGS 2016.

Suda-san spoke about it in various interviews in BitSummit (if my memory is right, going to say Kotaku interview)
And I think he mentioned it once or twice at PAX West.

Originally posted by Arale//Zero:

I could understand that but as I said, we've seen that they still have Parade's original art. It was on the website just the other day before they updated it. Really wish I saved it when I had the chance >< But it's also in The Art of GhM book. So whatever they lost it wasn't this.

I don't even mind redrawing it if it looks similar, but the Parade redraws look totally different.

I found a comparison of the two art styles. This is from the Art of GhM book. http://66.media.tumblr.com/4267c6eafa54272ac4c71fe86f6b7525/tumblr_npexq4iYBL1tsjzmxo10_1280.jpg

Left is original (in much higher res than seen on the PS1) and right is new. As you can see, Parade originally art changed into a completely different artist's style. In the new art it just looks like the rest of the game but in black and white.

Miyamoto-san, the artist, wanted to redraw them.

Originally posted by Deep_wolf:

If it's really bothers you that much, you probably should ask them directly. Go over to AGM site and ask them. Now.

Actually, asking Playism is better...

[brock2097 (zombieman000)]

Maybe we could get the original images by toggling one of the "Remaster" options from HD to "original?"

[KingfossilFER]

I was guessing that could be the case.

[Griszly]

I'm all for retaining the original designs, but the newer art doesn't feel too out of place. It's pretty much the same art style as the mobile sequel, 25 Ku.

[brock2097 (zombieman000)]

Just to follow up, I did not see the original/PS1 Parade art. I had movement and text speed set to HD but everything else set to original. I can live without having the choice but it would be neat.