How do I find cheaters in public matches?

[Papa Shekels]

First things first, this is intended to actually be constructive and not just flamebait, so please do respond in a constructive manner.

I just recently hit 5 days of in-game play time, so 120 hours of playing in matches not counting zombies/menus/HQ. Spent about 35 hours in just the past two weeks on multiplayer. In that time, I have only seen one aimbot/aim assist in a ground war match who left immediately after the match, but have myself been called a cheater ~3-4 times. I have seen a few blatant aimbots in the past, but I think the last one aside from that was over a month ago.

Now obviously, a single person's experience over two weeks makes terrible data for assumptions about a population. I don't doubt that there are cheaters here, but I also know many of these accusations are people hastily jumping the gun. So I'd like some feedback from the people who keep saying they find a cheater in every single match they play. What game modes are you playing? What times of the day? What region are you playing from?

I want to try seeing this from other people's perspective. Compared to what I see here, I am apparently getting extremely lucky in the matches I find. The biggest reason I ever get to complain about is somebody running around with akimbo 1911s or something. It is my personal assumption based on my experience that the cheater situation is not as bad as the community makes it out to be; help me prove myself wrong.

[Peak Imouto]

Yes, it's called hackusation. It's a real problem, but there IS too much hacking. Not nearly as much as some salty sandras keep saying "EVERY TIME IM IN A LOBBY THERES ALWAYS 2-5 CHEATERS!" I mean, come on. That only happens on free weekends. Still, I have played overwatch for 1000 hours, and only met one cheater, while in CoD I meet one every other week or so. So it's bad. Very bad.

[-=)V(=-]

You are simple too stupid to discover who cheating. But this is ok, you are from usa and a typical american is an idiot.

[Papa Shekels]

İlk olarak Fenrir tarafından gönderildi:

You are simple too stupid to discover who cheating. But this is ok, you are from usa and a typical american is an idiot.

Thanks for the constructive contribution. I'll be sure to keep that in mind next time I stomp lobbies full of players like you and get called a cheater again

[马文蕾不再爱我]

İlk olarak Toucha my Spaghet tarafından gönderildi:

Yes, it's called hackusation. It's a real problem, but there IS too much hacking. Not nearly as much as some salty sandras keep saying "EVERY TIME IM IN A LOBBY THERES ALWAYS 2-5 CHEATERS!" I mean, come on. That only happens on free weekends. Still, I have played overwatch for 1000 hours, and only met one cheater, while in CoD I meet one every other week or so. So it's bad. Very bad.

you would not notice it if a cheater would sit on your face and pooped in your open mouth, bc you are just a stupit optimist, maybe you cheat by your self and talk in every threat same ♥♥♥♥!
cheating is not = aimbot use, cheating incloudes also wallhacking without aimbot or simple pingfakers who think its cool to jump for all other guys in 5meter steps from corner to corner on a map. I dont know how many hours you have on your games, but it seems to me you have no idea what you are talking about.
its not about crying around, its a fact that many guys are cheating those past days in cod ww2!

[Papa Shekels]

İlk olarak Stee|oo tarafından gönderildi:

you would not notice it if a cheater would sit on your face and pooped in your open mouth, bc you are just a stupit optimist, maybe you cheat by your self and talk in every threat same ♥♥♥♥!
cheating is not = aimbot use, cheating incloudes also wallhacking without aimbot or simple pingfakers who think its cool to jump for all other guys in 5meter steps from corner to corner on a map. I dont know how many hours you have on your games, but it seems to me you have no idea what you are talking about.
its not about crying around, its a fact that many guys are cheating those past days in cod ww2!

The unnecessary ad hominem aside, you do bring up a good point. Cheating exists outside of blatant aimbots. However, please explain to me what kind of criteria you use to determine who is or is not cheating. These maps are relatively small and many players are predictable. Prefiring a corner or wallbanging a likely spot is completely normal in this game. Especially with this recent update, you have a ridiculous amount of utility at your disposal to figure out where people are, including a whole bunch of perks that situationally give you locations of people, the resistance division's radar indicator, recon planes, footstep noises, character callouts, team communication (in very rare instances where that exists here), and simple intuition based on surroundings. Do you really believe the majority of players takes all of that into account when they die and make the decision that the person who shot them is surely a cheater? Do you consider any of it?

[Peak Imouto]

İlk olarak Stee|oo tarafından gönderildi:

İlk olarak Toucha my Spaghet tarafından gönderildi:

Yes, it's called hackusation. It's a real problem, but there IS too much hacking. Not nearly as much as some salty sandras keep saying "EVERY TIME IM IN A LOBBY THERES ALWAYS 2-5 CHEATERS!" I mean, come on. That only happens on free weekends. Still, I have played overwatch for 1000 hours, and only met one cheater, while in CoD I meet one every other week or so. So it's bad. Very bad.

you would not notice it if a cheater would sit on your face and pooped in your open mouth, bc you are just a stupit optimist, maybe you cheat by your self and talk in every threat same ♥♥♥♥!
cheating is not = aimbot use, cheating incloudes also wallhacking without aimbot or simple pingfakers who think its cool to jump for all other guys in 5meter steps from corner to corner on a map. I dont know how many hours you have on your games, but it seems to me you have no idea what you are talking about.
its not about crying around, its a fact that many guys are cheating those past days in cod ww2!

No, you see, It's just that I'm experienced enough to spot the difference between a good player and a cheater. It happens when you have played Call of Duty since Call of Duty Allied Assault. And I'm also secure enough in myself that I don't need to call people names or pull hairs over being outplayed.

[-=)V(=-]

İlk olarak Papa Shekels tarafından gönderildi:

Thanks for the constructive contribution. I'll be sure to keep that in mind next time I stomp lobbies full of players like you and get called a cheater again

You're welcome.
Because I don't have time for people like you I copy-paste my previous comment.

People like you just blind and too stupid to know how cheats works.
I have 25 years gameplay experience, 15 years online, played more online shooter games than you know and I was a member of the best European clans in this games.
Why I never play this CoD trash? Because this is cheaterland.
When I meet somebody who is 10 times better then me and best ESL/WCG players, with 0 time reaction and who always (ALWAYS) know your position, answer is simple: HE IS F. CHEATER. And each f. time all suspect players = VAC BAN ACC or PRIVATE PROFILE. Each f. time. Accident? "Of course".

Use you brain and look carefully killcam. This is really easy. Most of time you can see wall hack. Many times is f. obvious who have others cheat. How? Because if you good and you know game good you know that situation is impossible.
Last week eg. shootguns daily. One shoot kill across too big distance. Conclusion? Cheater. How you know that? Because after 1000 shotgun kills you know max effective shotguns distance. And no, we don't speak about extra rifle bullet, we speak about first or auto shootgun.

[VAL]

289 hours, i have meet 15 cheaters.

[Papa Shekels]

İlk olarak Fenrir tarafından gönderildi:

Because I don't have time for people like you I copy-paste my previous comment.

Yes, not enough time for people like me...and yet you come in here, read my post, reply to it TWICE, and go through the trouble of searching for your, er, "credentials". You're giving way too many generalizations here to take you seriously, I'm afraid. If you truly have this many years of experience, why do you need to resort to childish insults and strawman examples to get a point across? Your argument is just that you are good enough to know that everybody is a cheater; that makes it seem like you are not as good as you think. That's also backed up by the fact that you are simply wrong in the example you gave, since the way server and client side information works in this game makes it impossible to cheat extra range onto your shotgun. After over 5000 hours in online shooters, I think my decision to not call everybody who kills me a cheater makes sense, given the competence of those who choose the alternative.

İlk olarak Vallex tarafından gönderildi:

289 hours, i have meet 15 cheaters.

But can you actually be specific? Like answer some of the questions from up top. Did you see most of these at the beginning of the game's time? Mostly recently? Spread evenly over time?

[VAL]

recently 1-2 cheaters.

[-=)V(=-]

İlk olarak Papa Shekels tarafından gönderildi:

That's also backed up by the fact that you are simply wrong in the example you gave, since the way server and client side information works in this game makes it impossible to cheat extra range onto your shotgun.

And this is reason why I don't see any reason to speak with people like you.
You simple don't know how cheats works.
I'm working as IT, network/system builder/administrator and programmer. There is no "extra range cheat". This is very simple aimbot. Game picks up packets with information that shoot hit and game register this shoot as hit. End of story.
Without any control in game/bad code you can do what you can. Many times with just simple hex editor I'am "cheated" mmo games. 1 000 000 dmg? No problem, 10 times faster movement? Zero problem.

[Papa Shekels]

İlk olarak Fenrir tarafından gönderildi:

And this is reason why I don't see any reason to speak with people like you.

Then why do you keep coming back to do it?

İlk olarak Fenrir tarafından gönderildi:

You simple don't know how cheats works.
I'm working as IT, network/system builder/administrator and programmer. There is no "extra range cheat". This is very simple aimbot. Game picks up packets with information that shoot hit and game register this shoot as hit. End of story.
Without any control in game/bad code you can do what you can. Many times with just simple hex editor I'am "cheated" mmo games. 1 000 000 dmg? No problem, 10 tmes faster movement? Zero problem.

Ah, I see, so you were a pro gamer for 25 years and are now a pro hacker. Are you a secret agent for the government as well? Perhaps a Valve employee? Billionaire hedge fund manager?

Again, this is not how things work in this game. I've seen plenty of different cheats in mw2 and mw3. Mw3 actually had some pretty wild ones, I have some old screenshots of them. You don't just send the server information that somebody was hit. Why? Because then there would be no need to do anything else. You can sit in spawn and shoot the ground, which would be nonstop killing everybody. Why even shoot? Just keep flooding the info to the game that everybody on the enemy team is constantly being hit. We have already had a few ban waves here, the majority of cheaters remaining are using their own scripts. All they do is grab player locations and snap to them. If what you said were true, aimbots would be obsolete. You should take your own advice and stop responding here if all you're going to do is make yourself look like an idiot by making up such ridiculous things

[-=)V(=-]

You are so much dumbass (but we already know that).
You don't have to be 20 years experience programmer to hack game like CoD.
Any idiot can shoot all opponnets from respawn but this is simple way to ban. If you have brain and playing with idiots like you, you don't have to worry.
But many cheaters are stupid kids who want show "how good they are" and this is their mistake.
Games "don't like cheaters" and games "go crazy". Why? Because cheat distorts the balance and goes beyond the norms. Game is simply physics and mathematics. This is why FairFight from BF analyzes player statistics and response time. Human is still just a human. So if somebody do it 50:0 each match anticheat know that you are cheater because such a thing is impossible. I played many times with players with max prestige who do that. All of them reported and banned and almost NOBODY, repeat almost NOBODY claimed they cheating. No, they not cheat, they are "good".
Shipment 1944 map is best to catch cheaters. Small area and opponets can respawn instantly behind you. So you are target from 360 degrees. Even extreme good players finish matches with 1,5 sometimes 2,0. But when you see somebody with 6,0 kdr you only need 30 seonds, 2-3 exchange fire with this players and you are 100% sure that he is a cheater.

[UK Old Git]

What mode do you play, I find you're less likely to find people cheating in softcore because of the kill cam, hard core has no kill cam except the end of round cam and sometimes seems like there are quite a few, although this could also be down to the crap netcode.

There's been plenty of video proof of people cheating so if you've only seen a couple in game then your lucky or .....

[Wandering Flare]

I have seen about 10 hackers in my playtime, once a guy was so frustrated about someone in my team using a shotgun on Griffin that he threatened to turn on hacks and actually DID. I get called a hacker a lot myself because I pre-fire common spots on War or just get a lucky flick now and then.

Not sure on which mode it was most, but I'd say either War or Shipment 1944.