Its a half game without eastern front :: Call of Duty: WWII General Discussions

Bogan

Jun 20, 2017 @ 9:20am

Originally posted by george47mathew:
Originally posted by Mr.Mackey:
No hype without Russia :(

The current trend is to glorify USA and to instill in everyones young minds to think it was USA that alone saved the world from NAZI Germany and Russia was just......

It was America that basically won the war since Russia was having trouble holding the Germans back from their borders. If USA hadn't stepped in the Nazis would've starved the Russians of supplies and ended up winning by way of attrition. It wasn't till America invaded that Germany stopped focusing so much on Russia which allowed the Russians to fight back.

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9imperator8 Jun 20, 2017 @ 9:25am

Originally posted by NSA Carnage:
Originally posted by george47mathew:

The current trend is to glorify USA and to instill in everyones young minds to think it was USA that alone saved the world from NAZI Germany and Russia was just......
It was America that basically won the war since Russia was having trouble holding the Germans back from their borders. If USA hadn't stepped in the Nazis would've starved the Russians of supplies and ended up winning by way of attrition. It wasn't till America invaded that Germany stopped focusing so much on Russia which allowed the Russians to fight back.

Actually even without usa russia may have won because when germany lost at stalingrad russia started their offensive. Stalingrad was a major defeat to germans and it was also the turning point of the war.

The difference of the amount of soldiers between the fronts was very big. Westernfront was like nothing to germany (little troops and mostly reserve) and on the easternfront there was a lot of soldiers and those with better training.

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Bogan

Jun 20, 2017 @ 9:26am

Originally posted by ✠ alarik98 ✠:
Originally posted by NSA Carnage:
It was America that basically won the war since Russia was having trouble holding the Germans back from their borders. If USA hadn't stepped in the Nazis would've starved the Russians of supplies and ended up winning by way of attrition. It wasn't till America invaded that Germany stopped focusing so much on Russia which allowed the Russians to fight back.
Actually even without usa russia may have won because when germany lost at stalingrad russia started their offensive. Stalingrad was a major defeat to germans and it was also the turning point of the war.

The difference of the amount of soldiers between the fronts was very big. Westernfront was like nothing to germany (little troops and mostly reserve) and on the easternfront there was a lot of soldiers and those with better training.

Yeah you keep thinking that bud. Your history is wrong but keep thinking that.

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9imperator8 Jun 20, 2017 @ 9:27am

Originally posted by NSA Carnage:
Originally posted by ✠ alarik98 ✠:
Actually even without usa russia may have won because when germany lost at stalingrad russia started their offensive. Stalingrad was a major defeat to germans and it was also the turning point of the war.

The difference of the amount of soldiers between the fronts was very big. Westernfront was like nothing to germany (little troops and mostly reserve) and on the easternfront there was a lot of soldiers and those with better training.
Yeah you keep thinking that bud. Your history is wrong but keep thinking that.

Okay so who are you to say "YOU ARE ALL WRONG AND I AM RIGHT". So can you provide evidence on your claims?

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Miyu Jun 20, 2017 @ 9:29am

Originally posted by NSA Carnage:
Originally posted by ✠ alarik98 ✠:
Actually even without usa russia may have won because when germany lost at stalingrad russia started their offensive. Stalingrad was a major defeat to germans and it was also the turning point of the war.

The difference of the amount of soldiers between the fronts was very big. Westernfront was like nothing to germany (little troops and mostly reserve) and on the easternfront there was a lot of soldiers and those with better training.
Yeah you keep thinking that bud. Your history is wrong but keep thinking that.

Lol, Germany was on the defensive long before D-day. They were also loosing in North Afrika and in Italy as well. And the russians just kept coming. Keep telling yourself that Amerika won the war.

Germany failed at Moscow. Failed at Stalingrad with giant losses. Not to mention kursk. But sure the russians had trouble holding them back.

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Clown Reemus Jun 20, 2017 @ 12:21pm

Originally posted by ✠ alarik98 ✠:
Originally posted by NSA Carnage:
It was America that basically won the war since Russia was having trouble holding the Germans back from their borders. If USA hadn't stepped in the Nazis would've starved the Russians of supplies and ended up winning by way of attrition. It wasn't till America invaded that Germany stopped focusing so much on Russia which allowed the Russians to fight back.
Actually even without usa russia may have won because when germany lost at stalingrad russia started their offensive. Stalingrad was a major defeat to germans and it was also the turning point of the war.

The difference of the amount of soldiers between the fronts was very big. Westernfront was like nothing to germany (little troops and mostly reserve) and on the easternfront there was a lot of soldiers and those with better training.

USA assisted the Soviets tremendously during the lend-lease contracts, without it the production in a war-exhausted USSR would collapse. The same happened during the first WW when stronger industrially Britain gave Imperial Russia resources to keep it at war on their side (did not work). WIthout any of those three: USSR, USA, Great Britain fighting against nacistic Germany, the war would have been several times more brutal and destructive AND Hitler could have actually conquered or allied with the remains of the Euroasia.

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Clown Reemus Jun 20, 2017 @ 12:23pm

Originally posted by Ranger:
Everyone knows that the Russians took Nazi Germany apart more than anyone else. But it was the USA that decimated the Empire of Japan more than anyone else. The USA hardly sat around during the war. They were just busy in the Pacific.

The Battle of Midway is one of the most decisive naval victories in world history.

Though Japanese are a part of WW2, by their specific circumstances they had really little impact on it. It could be derived that they have kept USA busy and delayed the allied assistance for Europe, but I have not studied the topic further. Otherwise, Japan had waged it's own colonial war on Asia half a millenium later than others did. Not really a major part of WW2.

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george47mathew Jun 20, 2017 @ 1:06pm

Originally posted by Clown Reemus:
Originally posted by ✠ alarik98 ✠:
Actually even without usa russia may have won because when germany lost at stalingrad russia started their offensive. Stalingrad was a major defeat to germans and it was also the turning point of the war.

The difference of the amount of soldiers between the fronts was very big. Westernfront was like nothing to germany (little troops and mostly reserve) and on the easternfront there was a lot of soldiers and those with better training.
USA assisted the Soviets tremendously during the lend-lease contracts, without it the production in a war-exhausted USSR would collapse. The same happened during the first WW when stronger industrially Britain gave Imperial Russia resources to keep it at war on their side (did not work). WIthout any of those three: USSR, USA, Great Britain fighting against nacistic Germany, the war would have been several times more brutal and destructive AND Hitler could have actually conquered or allied with the remains of the Euroasia.

Its not only USA who gave aid...Britain also aided.

Germany was steam rolling on Russia and its only the weather and the vast terrain that made fighting in Russia tedious.

Russians were also forced to fight harder coz if they retreat they will be shot by their own and if they dont get shot for that...then there will be too many retreats and even mutiny.

Personally I believe they should have added a Russia side to the upcoming campaign too...I mean they too played a huge part....its was more of a combined effort.

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Clown Reemus Jun 20, 2017 @ 1:13pm

I don't know how to make other understand anymore... There is no need for any other campaign than that of American soldier and a French resistance. The first symbolises every soldier fighting for freedom and Justice (actual Justice, not Lebensraum insanity), the other every resistance fighter who tried to stand up to oppression. They are not certain people. They are ideas manifested in what you know as human beings. What is the need for a soviet campaign? Soviet people are the same as american and any other people from any "imagined community". They feel the same when they are hit, the same when they hit. There is simply no need for any other campaign but one. And Soviets were not that religious as American soldiers. The cross plays a major role in the war narrative and any depiction of it as a symbol of hope (and hate sometimes, if used maliciously (See Far Cry 5)). If you want to understand what I am talking about without forcing me to say the same thing over and over see the film Hacksaw Ridge. The main character there is something what you will see in the main character in CoD WW2. Except he will get close to breaking.

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Mr.PastaSsempa has Call of Duty: WWII

Jun 21, 2017 @ 1:26am

Originally posted by Angry Video Game Noob:
The main problem, the world was conquered by capitalists.
Such a wonderful world they created - with muslim pedophiles, gay negroes, genocidal chinese, weak and stupid whites... with freedom to own slaves, to rаре children, to bomb people down, to mass-kill them with heroin... oh, wait, you have no freedom, you have only smartphone.

Should I go on? [/qu
Originally posted by Angry Video Game Noob:
Less than 100 of people were killed by soviets for political reasons during entire history of USSR.
Hoover alone massacred about 1 million of homeless people. WITH TANKS. Coolige machinegunned tens of thousands peaceful protestors right before him. Untill 1970s your republican governors continued to mass-shoot people if it weren't national guard around to stop them.

And I talk only about people killed for speaking their minds.

I would vote for you ;)

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Mr.PastaSsempa has Call of Duty: WWII

Jun 21, 2017 @ 1:36am

Originally posted by NSA Carnage:
Originally posted by george47mathew:

The current trend is to glorify USA and to instill in everyones young minds to think it was USA that alone saved the world from NAZI Germany and Russia was just......
It was America that basically won the war since Russia was having trouble holding the Germans back from their borders. If USA hadn't stepped in the Nazis would've starved the Russians of supplies and ended up winning by way of attrition. It wasn't till America invaded that Germany stopped focusing so much on Russia which allowed the Russians to fight back.

Yeah u got point but America had no border with Germany it was easier launch an operation without under attack. What happened only effected America's allies civil life unharmed in America production never damaged by air raids if USSR was surrender America couldnt win that war. No way Jose, no way.

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76561198392198382 Jun 21, 2017 @ 2:27am

nah, Russia defeated Germany, not America. they were too busy being salty ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ after the Japanese owned them at Pearl harbor. your 'MURICA ♥♥♥♥ YEAH!' historys full of errors.

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9imperator8 Jun 21, 2017 @ 2:43am

Originally posted by gabenfatbuttocks:
nah, Russia defeated Germany, not America. they were too busy being salty ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ after the Japanese owned them at Pearl harbor. your 'MURICA ♥♥♥♥ YEAH!' historys full of errors.

History is full of errors because those who win get to write the history.

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Clown Reemus Jun 21, 2017 @ 2:46am

Originally posted by ✠ alarik98 ✠:
Originally posted by gabenfatbuttocks:
nah, Russia defeated Germany, not America. they were too busy being salty ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ after the Japanese owned them at Pearl harbor. your 'MURICA ♥♥♥♥ YEAH!' historys full of errors.
History is full of errors because those who win get to write the history.

Steam forum is full of errors when you reply to a random social outcast that bends history for his malicious intents.

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9imperator8 Jun 21, 2017 @ 3:01am

Originally posted by Clown Reemus:
Originally posted by ✠ alarik98 ✠:
History is full of errors because those who win get to write the history.
Steam forum is full of errors when you reply to a random social outcast that bends history for his malicious intents.

Still the history that is told to us everywhere is not always correct, it is written by those who won. Those who won wars before media and internet. They were basically able to write the history as it suited them. This is also why germany's war crimes a bit too highlighted and people forget the war crimes that other nations commited (every nation commited war crimes in ww2)

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