Can we play as the Soviet Union?

[[DEVELOPER] Ben Gurion]

They won the war on the Eastern Front, so can we actually play as the red army?

[ViPeR]

Hopefully they have a Soviet campaign like cod2. Soviet in multiplayer would be great too. Still, I won't be buying if they don't have rentable servers.

[Picardy]

Very unlikely in the reveal stream they said you can play as the Americans, British and French resistance in the campaign. They usually base the MP on the maps and battles in the SP.

[[Kartell]Captain Data]

Well, I'd love to play for ONE side exclusively (in this case, US soldiers). But I don't mind an extension campaign for Soviets and British units as well.

[Byakuren Enjoyer]

we did in waw
we probably will in wwii too

[-NODER-_Novastorm_]

The soviet Union helped to win the war with the help of allied nations, in those days a single nation alone wouldnt have a chance to defeat Nazi Germany.

[[Kartell]Captain Data]

Originally posted by novastorm//pt\\:

The soviet Union helped to win the war with the help of allied nations, in those days a single nation alone wouldnt have a chance to defeat Nazi Germany.

Technically the SU won the war nearly on their own. Even without DDay, they would have won. Maybe not by April '45, but a couple of months later.

Not saying the lives of the soldiers of the other nations were wasted - they all did their duty to bring down Nazi Germany. The BIGGEST burden was carried by soviet soldiers.

That's why I'd like to see a soviet campaign as well. If it's not part of the vanilla game, I hope for an expansion adding it.

- a German ;)

[Que carajo?]

Originally posted by captain-data:

Originally posted by novastorm//pt\\:

The soviet Union helped to win the war with the help of allied nations, in those days a single nation alone wouldnt have a chance to defeat Nazi Germany.

Technically the SU won the war nearly on their own. Even without DDay, they would have won. Maybe not by April '45, but a couple of months later.

Not saying the lives of the soldiers of the other nations were wasted - they all did their duty to bring down Nazi Germany. The BIGGEST burden was carried by soviet soldiers.

That's why I'd like to see a soviet campaign as well. If it's not part of the vanilla game, I hope for an expansion adding it.

- a German ;)

Meine respektierung. Seriously, as a Russian I was glad to read this. I'd like to see every war theater of WWII - African war, Battle of Moscow, Stalingrad and Kursk, Op. Torch and D-Day, Ardennes and Berlin. Lets hope one more time devs will make CoD great again.

[x911]

Originally posted by Vladimir Lenin:

we did in waw
we probably will in wwii too

Lets hope fam..

[ViPeR]

Russia didn't win the war. The Germans lost it. They fought on too many front.

If the Normandy landing didn't happen then Russia would have faced the full German force. And if Germany didn't decide to turn on their once Allie ,Russia, then the British allies would have lost. Could also go onto Japan bringing the US into war also.

Anyway. A Russian campaign should be included. They will probably save that for a Day 2 payed DLC to make more money.

[nikiv]

The game about Western Europe, the soviets in the east

[squirtikiss]

Had Germany only fought Russia, the Russians would have been wiped out. Anyone who says the Russians won the war basically by themselves has no idea what the true history of the war is.
Of course, the French, British, and Americans combined would have had a very tough go also. The fact that two of the three allies had to make amphibious landings was hugely in favor of the Germans. (British includes Canadians, Kiwis, Aussies, etc.)
The fact is the Russians "won" because much of the German power was spent gaining and holding a huge amount of territory. The only thing superior about the Russians was the number of soldiers they had. There was much in their favor and they were still almost taken out.
Eventually they were able to produce excellent equipment, but only because Germany gave them time by attacking Poland and France first.

[Bogan]

Originally posted by captain-data:

Originally posted by novastorm//pt\\:

The soviet Union helped to win the war with the help of allied nations, in those days a single nation alone wouldnt have a chance to defeat Nazi Germany.

Technically the SU won the war nearly on their own. Even without DDay, they would have won. Maybe not by April '45, but a couple of months later.

Not saying the lives of the soldiers of the other nations were wasted - they all did their duty to bring down Nazi Germany. The BIGGEST burden was carried by soviet soldiers.

That's why I'd like to see a soviet campaign as well. If it's not part of the vanilla game, I hope for an expansion adding it.

- a German ;)

No they didn't. I think the Japanese Emperor said it best when he stated that they awakened a sleeping giant by bombing Pearl Harbour. It was the Americans and their Allies that pushed into Germany not Russia.

- an Australian

[NagaPrince]

That's not true at all. The German's weren't really fighting anybody else till mid-1943 I'd say, in Italy, and even then, the forces German's committed to North Africa and Italy were minor contributions. Can't believe what some of you are stating, guys don't read up on anything... VIPeR, by time Normandy occurred, Germany had already lost the war. That's 1944. They lost millions in experienced manpower on the Eastern Front, with nothing strategic to show for it. They're lucky they had Manstein and other famous generals doing such an amazing job holding back the Soviet's for so long.

Originally posted by squirtikiss:

Had Germany only fought Russia, the Russians would have been wiped out. Anyone who says the Russians won the war basically by themselves has no idea what the true history of the war is.
Of course, the French, British, and Americans combined would have had a very tough go also. The fact that two of the three allies had to make amphibious landings was hugely in favor of the Germans. (British includes Canadians, Kiwis, Aussies, etc.)
The fact is the Russians "won" because much of the German power was spent gaining and holding a huge amount of territory. The only thing superior about the Russians was the number of soldiers they had. There was much in their favor and they were still almost taken out.
Eventually they were able to produce excellent equipment, but only because Germany gave them time by attacking Poland and France first.

The German's only had Panzergruppe Afrika outside of Europe, otherwise, pretty much everything was thrown at the East. June 1941, 80% of the Germany Army was in the East, consecutive June 1942 as well, and dropped further on. The French and British were knocked out of mainland Europe! You have no idea what you're talking about lol, just stop.

Anybody who says the USSR won the war by themselves has a great degree of truth to their words, because the Germans concentrated the overwhelming majority of their material and manpower to that front, lost, and the Soviet's occupied Berlin. How is that not, a "win"? They won. The German's surrendered to them. Attempting to downplay their achievements by wordsmithing doesn't work, and its sad the attempt is made so vigorously as if theirs preconceived judgments.

German power wasn't spent holding vast tracts of land, that was left to certain military units such as Wehrmacht Security Divisions and paramilitary organizations that didn't styme the general war effort. They consisted of ineligible military recruits, disabled, local ethnic manpower, etc.

What made the Soviet's (85 Ethniticies apparently, not just Russians) win was their industrial powerhouse, their vast manpower reserves, their geographical expanse, and their strategic decisions. They actually made amazing weaponry and vehicles, that although had many flaws to go with them, were robust and reliable overall. German's became acquainted with Soviet firearms, and famously copied the sloped armoring of the T-34 series onto their own.

Germany never gave them "time", because they didn't have an actual physical border, doesn't make sense. I bet you don't even know what "excellent equipment" they had.

If anything, for someone pushing so hard for the argument that the Soviet Union didn't win the war, which they did really for everyone overall, and doesn't deserve any substantial credit, or in your case... no credit, you could've used the Lend-Lease. What we provided, and what England provided for the USSR was very instrumental in their victory on the Eastern Front. Stalin, Khrushchev, and Zhukov personally stated that without the efforts and materials of the Lend-Lease, they probably wouldn't have won the war. Stalin went on about how his reserves would have been completely bankrupt without the aid of the Lend-Lease.

"58% of the USSR's high octane aviation fuel
33% of their motor vehicles
53% of expended ordinance (artillery shells, mines, assorted explosives)
30% of military aircraft
93% of railway equipment (locomotives, freight cars, wide gauge rails, etc.)
50–80% of rolled steel, cable, lead, and aluminium
43% of garage facilities (building materials & blueprints)
12% of tanks and SPGs"

I did your homework for you, but no, the Soviet Union still decisively decided the outcome of the war. Germany effectively lost the conflict between Operation Barbarossa, and Stalingrad. People will state Kursk decided the outcome, the strategic outcome was obvious, and Hitler finally lost the chance at peace talks thereafter.

[Bogan]

Originally posted by Samurai Jack:

Originally posted by squirtikiss:

Had Germany only fought Russia, the Russians would have been wiped out. Anyone who says the Russians won the war basically by themselves has no idea what the true history of the war is.
Of course, the French, British, and Americans combined would have had a very tough go also. The fact that two of the three allies had to make amphibious landings was hugely in favor of the Germans. (British includes Canadians, Kiwis, Aussies, etc.)
The fact is the Russians "won" because much of the German power was spent gaining and holding a huge amount of territory. The only thing superior about the Russians was the number of soldiers they had. There was much in their favor and they were still almost taken out.
Eventually they were able to produce excellent equipment, but only because Germany gave them time by attacking Poland and France first.

Actually its true. During the 1941-42 germans only fought russia. This years allies wasnt even active and like 90% of wehrmacht fought on east.
What huge amount territories you talkung about?

Wrong the Brits, Australians and most Allied nations were fighting Germany and Japan it was only America that was neutral so brush up on your history please.

[Wight]

Well the Russians would have most likely keept pushing through Germany, towards France and even further if the allies didn't come from that direction.