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"Fired ! Out of a cannon " & " Validol or Validation " Achievements
Hi,

I've been struggling on this achievements for the past 2 days, I have made countless try to get the achievements but nothing seems to work. Even if i try to change some details .... And i can't figure what's the issue .... or find precise informations on internet ....

To be precise, i :

1) Helped the Schimmers escape (on the cruise)
2) Reported Grubic to Danton (without killing Anna)
3) Killed the general (with the bomb)
4) Turned the propaganda unit to the "New Tomorrow" Channel
5) Helped kill Inga (thanks to her daughter) and I also tried without killing her
6) I didn't complete unlimited tasks from the ministry ( I just got one though ? )
7) I also only repported once Jacob Manishek and profile once for Klaus Schimmer because i had to make the story goes on
8) I tried the version without helping Albert Meineke and with
9) Got fined for stealing
10) Didn't pay Hempf at the end

I don't think this has on influence on the achievements but i also :
- Help Dora Noel
- Didn't pay attention to Jones Popanedo
- Patrick was out of the country


Does anyone have an idear of the issue ? Or the correct path to take because this is so frustating ...
Any dev out here ?

(Ps : this is the only achievements i miss with " Most Important Thing " )
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darxtorn  [developer] Aug 17, 2020 @ 12:18am 
Sorry for the late respond, but have you tried to also put illegal stuff in your furnitures and inventory?
My Dear Addiction Aug 17, 2020 @ 6:43am 
Hi,

Yes, i retried that to be sure with a fish but nothing happened :'(
Lynn Oct 11, 2020 @ 9:54am 
Hi, you found a solution? I can't get that achievements too :c
My Dear Addiction Oct 11, 2020 @ 12:36pm 
Hey, nope .... To be honest I gived up ^^" maybe one day I will make a doc with all the decision to try every possibilities but atm I'm not that bored
My Dear Addiction Sep 28, 2021 @ 10:24am 
Originally posted by darxtorn:
Sorry for the late respond, but have you tried to also put illegal stuff in your furnitures and inventory?

Hi, I've been stuck on this since .... Do you have any clue on how to get the achievement (and so fail the test xD ) ? Because helping the revolution doesn't seem to impact the result of the test ? Stealing or failing the task either ? And I can't figure out what's the thing I'm missing :'(
robak Dec 5, 2021 @ 8:36am 
Originally posted by My Dear Addiction:
Originally posted by darxtorn:
Sorry for the late respond, but have you tried to also put illegal stuff in your furnitures and inventory?

Hi, I've been stuck on this since .... Do you have any clue on how to get the achievement (and so fail the test xD ) ? Because helping the revolution doesn't seem to impact the result of the test ? Stealing or failing the task either ? And I can't figure out what's the thing I'm missing :'(

I did all the things you did (but killed General with him going to the guy), stole all the bad stuff and put it into my furniture and have some on me (first when my family was alive and after they all died) but also send profiles wrongly like 4 times (reported with wrong apartment number and gender) and I got it. Helped Meineke with the blueprints as well
Last edited by robak; Dec 5, 2021 @ 8:38am
Richkiller Dec 14, 2021 @ 4:03am 
Originally posted by robak:
Originally posted by My Dear Addiction:

Hi, I've been stuck on this since .... Do you have any clue on how to get the achievement (and so fail the test xD ) ? Because helping the revolution doesn't seem to impact the result of the test ? Stealing or failing the task either ? And I can't figure out what's the thing I'm missing :'(

I did all the things you did (but killed General with him going to the guy), stole all the bad stuff and put it into my furniture and have some on me (first when my family was alive and after they all died) but also send profiles wrongly like 4 times (reported with wrong apartment number and gender) and I got it. Helped Meineke with the blueprints as well

I also want to do this achievement. Currently only missing this one and Citizen Shteyn (and their respective trainee modes), I'm seeing both achievements are unclear and there is no accurate guide to get them.

When you say "stole all the bad stuff and put it into my furniture", do you mean every single prohibited item possible?

edit: Just did Citizen Shteyn, looks like sometimes if you save yourself (60,000$ for Bruno) the game says you're a great citizen and you get the achievement and the cutscene. It doesn't happen always, I have saved myself in the past and it didn't work, so I'm really not sure what's the deal with that one but I got it.

edit 2: Got the "Fired ! Out of a cannon" achievement, gladly on my first complete new run for that, so now I have all the achievements in Beholder =).

Things I did:
- Avoid any task that the Minstry asks for and is not mandatory to progress the story. Exceptions including Jacob Manisek, and bringing in Inga Birkenfeld (despite those not being marked in red). Failing enough timed tasks should make the Minstery call you for a warning.
- Helping Danton in every quest possible. In particular give the box without checking what's inside, and ratting on Antoine Grubic as soon as possible (without him asking for a shelter first).
- 4 incorrect reports, one of them being a report of an incorrect item, causing the police to search an appartment for no reason. Made no correct report other than the necesery Jacob Manisek.
- Police found me stealing 2 times, one bribed with money and one with points.
- Had many types of illegal items in my inventory, every single one I could get from Nethan the seller, as well as having illegal item in each furniture in my appartment, including the computer.
- Brought in Irving Munch to get his Propaganda task, which of course I did not complete.
- Had all of my family killed to pay fines.
- Stolen the blueprints of the "Nuclear Club".
- Sent Inga aboard using the passports from the "Nuclear Club" task, made the Minstry mad. It also made the people who want to kill her mad, I just found that if you tell them to go to hell you'll unlock a cool ending which has no achievement hence probably a lot have missed.

Hopefully that's gonna help someone.



Last edited by Richkiller; Dec 14, 2021 @ 8:10am
banana.snapple Dec 15, 2021 @ 2:42am 
Hello. Play in Government Elite mode, you will unlock Fired! Out of a cannon and Validol or validation together.

You must have Inga Birkenfeld in an apartment and you will get a phone call to kill her. So, you will have the Patriotic production task. As soon as you see it, go to Nathan and buy some arsenic. In the meantime, welcome the Dreimans as new tenants. When you have arsenic, go to Inga Birkenfeld, try to poison her, compliment her on 2000 reputation, give her the arsenic and she will die.

When Inga Birkenfeld is dead, you will receive a phone call, giving you $ 5,000 in reward, and another phone call from the Ministry, to send the profiles of five tenants. You can ignore this task.

Now, speed up the time to expire the Change is coming task. Answer the phone, they will tell you that you have failed the performance review. The war continues and the New Tomorrow Movement will be successful.

You will unlock several achivements: Brave New World, Patria or Muerte!; War Never Changes, War is Peace; Fired! Out of a cannon, Validol or validation; Iron Curtain.
Romwy Jun 2, 2022 @ 11:52am 
Originally posted by darxtorn:
Sorry for the late respond, but have you tried to also put illegal stuff in your furnitures and inventory?

does not work xD
This achievement was the hardest and last for me. It was nice to see people having the same problems as me. After a lot of effort, I was able to achieve this success. Let me tell you how..
First of all, do not serve, do not fulfill any duty given by the state. (Except for placement tasks)
Rebel group gave instructions to kill people important to the state, Kill them all. Enter wrong person profiles a lot, Do not rat anyone out to the government. Steal items from homes (usually important and forbidden things) Brono don't give money. You will get the achievement without doing anything 😅
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