Gaining the 20,000

[Sinzim]

this is impossible. can someone please help? i have 13 hours left. is there an npc you can talk to get this done? there were antibiotics in an apartment, would that work?

[Sinzim]

Originally posted by Alawar Entertainment Inc.:

I am sure that someone will make a LEt's Play video where you will be able to see that it is not really hard. don't be afraid of mines, don't be too fast with completing wifes' quests, cheapest camera could be sold to a dealer for a much better price, doctor could live with 2 possible girls but only 1 bings you 5K

except that the one that gives you 5k murders him, thus raising the price you need to pay to 30k

[Sinzim]

you know i think im tempted to be a heartless B***ard and let her die, just for the sake of actually being able to play the game haha

[MrBagoo]

Got it! She lives. But you need to do the "right" things indeed.
As pointed out:
- get Sarah for the doctor
- reveal her false identity by calling the ministry and tell them that something is wrong about her
- talk to her, get the 5000$
- report to the ministry so they take her away before she kills the doctor
- don't tell the doctor about her wrong identity! He will hate you for it and not help you anymore
- after Sarah got arrested talk to the doctor again
- at some point he will give you the tickets for the ship
- sell these to the merchant for additional 5000$
- Here you go! Martha lives. At least for a while ;)
- ah and you still can get the Schimmers out of the house and get money from them by persuading the sailor to take them with him.

[zy06958]

Originally posted by MrBagoo:

Got it! She lives. But you need to do the "right" things indeed.
As pointed out:
- get Sarah for the doctor
- reveal her false identity by calling the ministry and tell them that something is wrong about her
- talk to her, get the 5000$
- report to the ministry so they take her away before she kills the doctor
- don't tell the doctor about her wrong identity! He will hate you for it and not help you anymore
- after Sarah got arrested talk to the doctor again
- at some point he will give you the tickets for the ship
- sell these to the merchant for additional 5000$
- Here you go! Martha lives. At least for a while ;)
- ah and you still can get the Schimmers out of the house and get money from them by persuading the sailor to take them with him.

Yeah u are right but it definitely evil.

In fact, u can blackmailed Schimmers to get 2000 then give them ship tickets to get a lot admire and about 4000 money.

in that way, u saved them and squeezed all their money and Schimmers promise will help u after arrive the new city.

[MrBagoo]

Originally posted by 东锅先生:

Yeah u are right but it definitely evil.

In fact, u can blackmailed Schimmers to get 2000 then give them ship tickets to get a lot admire and about 4000 money.

in that way, u saved them and squeezed all their money and Schimmers promise will help u after arrive the new city.

Nope you exactly DON'T give the tickets to the Schimmers. You sell the tickets for another 5000$!! You persuade the sailorman to take them with him.

[zy06958]

Originally posted by MrBagoo:

Originally posted by 东锅先生:

Yeah u are right but it definitely evil.

In fact, u can blackmailed Schimmers to get 2000 then give them ship tickets to get a lot admire and about 4000 money.

in that way, u saved them and squeezed all their money and Schimmers promise will help u after arrive the new city.

Nope you exactly DON'T give the tickets to the Schimmers. You sell the tickets for another 5000$!! You persuade the sailorman to take them with him.

on my god I thought the sailor can not stay that long and let police took him...but I found that the old couple will sell u to government later due to u get Schimmers` document from him...U know that?

If i persuade the salior, what about the cans? ingore the quest?

and many questiongs...the choice in this game is too complex...the student live few days who receive the box from resistance, should I help him? I got a mail that after him the univercity is closed, any trouble to my son if I gave him money?

how can I get gun for the lose sleep girl....

[Sinzim]

Originally posted by 东锅先生:

Originally posted by MrBagoo:

Nope you exactly DON'T give the tickets to the Schimmers. You sell the tickets for another 5000$!! You persuade the sailorman to take them with him.

on my god I thought the sailor can not stay that long and let police took him...but I found that the old couple will sell u to government later due to u get Schimmers` document from him...U know that?

If i persuade the salior, what about the cans? ingore the quest?

and many questiongs...the choice in this game is too complex...the student live few days who receive the box from resistance, should I help him? I got a mail that after him the univercity is closed, any trouble to my son if I gave him money?

how can I get gun for the lose sleep girl....

if you instead take the box to your office, the box actually contains a gun, two birds one stone.

[Kinder]

I'm sorry to say that but have you been drinking ? Do you really think it's a good game design to force the player not to take the quests the game is presenting ? You should not be punished to take a quest without knowing what is it about
I liked very much the 1st hours of the game, but after 3-4 full restart, and a lots of saves reloading, I have to consider this as a very negative point of the game

[Kinder]

The game is showing you in the tutorial that you have to set cameras inside the appartments, but when i'm reading you here, I understand that if you want to save the daughter, just sell the cameras... ? Wait what ?

[reciproke]

Most of the spoiler events discussed never happened to me.

I think its really gamey and gimmicky. Most players dont want to continue playing when they fail getting the 20k, which is a game breaker. I really dont want to do save scrumming and trial and error.
Most stuff is scripted so its feels really like grind and takes the fun out of it. I think that part is really a bad design decision and I really dont want to continue playing which happened never in comparable games like This War of Mine or Papers, Please.

[Lynobia]

My Wife dies two time in one game and I must pay for her burial two times too...
So i lost the game because of that -.-

[Sinzim]

Originally posted by Lynobia:

My Wife dies two time in one game and I must pay for her burial two times too...
So i lost the game because of that -.-

how the hell did you screw up that badly? how do you kill a person twice? haha

[Certia]

I figured out a means to get the 20k while still keeping the tickets (since I think you will need them later for an alternate reason than giving it to the Schimmers, maybe for the son I suppose) but my main problem is keeping Anna alive.

I can't figure out for the life of me how to keep her from going out into the street. I thought it was triggered by giving her the grocery money since she has a shopping cart icon over her head when she leaves so I went back and didn't give her money for that but NOPE. She's dead again. Dammit Anna, I'm trying to keep everyone alive >:T

[Ashavan]

I think we all agree with something here: we want to take our time playing, and they make us rush through it...

[Danny Fenton]

Yeah, if there was some sort of Easy mode where the quest deadlines are longer (or dont have deadlines at all!) I would enjoy it a lot more....