I really like that the new dlc is legendary only

[Captain OP]

Hallo fellow Titan Slayers,
i see a lot of people complaining about ethernal embers beeing legendary only, but guess what, its awesome. Its the best content of a arpg i have played in years. The details in the map design is a pure enjoyment and the maps are soooo huge. If you dont buy the addon because of the difficulty than you really miss out very great content. And if you suck at the game, just make a pet build or some strenght builds, but dont complain that you cant handle the diffculty. I mean really, the game isnt that hard and the new addon is scalled to be played after act 4 and you get good equipment to start every build you want. Catch some gold from items run to atlantis and buy legendary lootbags and you will be fine.

Starting a fresh legendary is what the game needed. Some of my friends wanted to play endgame, but didnt want to go through normal and legendary to finally get all the cool items, but now they can and thats awesome. I am having a blast with them at tarterus on legendary!

What are you wanting for? Jump in!

[B l u e b e r r y P o p t a r t]

I agree with this except I have not experienced it yet since I didn't have enough money left on Steam and probably wait for the winter sale to get it (hopefully).

[ErsatzDragon]

The things you love (size and detail of the map) aren't related to difficulty, so why should folks have to tolerate that difficulty to enjoy 'em?

[Captain OP]

Originally posted by ErsatzDragon:

The things you love (size and detail of the map) aren't related to difficulty, so why should folks have to tolerate that difficulty to enjoy 'em?

I can question back:
That’s the point, the difficulty doesn’t really matter, it is easy content and I think it’s pointless to add it in normal or epic. Atlantis is a endgame dlc, I played it first time when I reached legendary and I missed nothing there on other difficulties. So why bother?

[ninakoru]

Captain OP? I would say Captain Salt, hehehe

Mostly agree, I personally don't understand all the whining, this game is not that hard, play POE if you want to die all the time to BS.

Initially I thought they are being lazy, only balancing and adding the new stuff on one difficulty but... Those new maps are really HUGE. Worth the price only for the exploration.

[GriinWan]

Totally agree with that! EE is a lovely endgame content at the moment. and I wish it remains so. Honestly I don`t understand people completing Normal and not going higher difficulties skipping 2/3 of game literally - it is not that hard to complete game on Epic and Legend except couple of bosses I think, but bosses are called that for a reason aren`t they? And for futher relief you can just go with some error-friendly build like tank-conqueror for example. Before Atlantis there was a potential problem with poor item drop but now you can just go to Gadir and buy spheres as Captain OP wrote. Also characters are so much fun to play on higher levels with all wished skills pumped up.
And if EE was enabled on Normal and Epic (and it is mandatory and huge unlike Atlantis) it probably became a torture to complete full Normal and go to a more interesting difficulty level for people who like completing full game but aren`t very enjoyed on lower difficulty levels (I definitely know couple of them). This point is the most controversial and uncertain, I understand.

[Ripz]

Originally posted by ErsatzDragon:

The things you love (size and detail of the map) aren't related to difficulty, so why should folks have to tolerate that difficulty to enjoy 'em?

This. You could still have all that (including option for boosted start), and still have a normal difficulty mode option available for players that don't play legendary.

No one's saying legendary players should have to play through normal and epic again to get to legendary on new chars.

[GlorFindel1983]

Me too, since I never got to play the game at Legendary and fight Hydra and some other Legendary only bosses. Now, I just make a level 70 character, don't pick anything on first map, run past first monsters and go to Helos and I play the Titan Quest on Legendary and will finally see all the content. So, in that regard, thank you THQ Nordic.

[Captain OP]

Originally posted by Generic White Guy:

Originally posted by ErsatzDragon:

The things you love (size and detail of the map) aren't related to difficulty, so why should folks have to tolerate that difficulty to enjoy 'em?

This. You could still have all that (including option for boosted start), and still have a normal difficulty mode option available for players that don't play legendary.

What's the point of not playing on legendary?
I mean in which way would it be superior to play normal or epic instead?

Originally posted by Generic White Guy:

No one's saying legendary players should have to play through normal and epic again to get to legendary on new chars.

Exactly, so why do you point that out?

[redgreen999]

Originally posted by B l u e b e r r y P o p t a r t:

I agree with this except I have not experienced it yet since I didn't have enough money left on Steam and probably wait for the winter sale to get it (hopefully).

I have to wait for sale also. I have a level 19 storm/nature that might be legendary by winter sale.

[Belgarion]

Originally posted by Captain OP:

What's the point of not playing on legendary?
I mean in which way would it be superior to play normal or epic instead?

Dude, you realize how arrogant you sound?
The point is: I choose to do so. Others do, too. Nobody is talking about superiority.

Personally, I think the decision to restrict the DLC to legendary difficulty is one of most stupid decisions by a game developer I have ever seen in 30+ years of gaming. You annoy part of the player base who did not realize this (granted, reading the details would help) and from a business perspective you earn less money because some players might not buy the DLC because of this. Really strange...

[SirMadnessTV]

+1 It's not about reducing the joy of legndary players it's about allowing casual players to also enjoy the dlc.

Casual players means : do not have the knowledge to create build strong enough to fit the legendary difficulty - meaning also "casual" so not spending hundreds of hours into this game. But casual community (for every games) is the main financial ressource (even though "legendary players" are the one who keeps the game alive in term of gameplayhours.

Also "end game content" means end of the story content (from normal mode) epic and legendary are already the end game content. So adding new epic loot for these modes ok why not but story part should be at first in normal mode to allow everyone access it.

Finally from a writing point of vue it's very weird to have a story "different" after 3 difficulty level when it's not involving a plot which fits with some sort of time/world alteration that could justify the thing.

So it's nice that the dev think about the legendary players but i really think that the reward should be "optionnal equipment, feats, pets, cosmetics or whatever but the story"

and +1 for the weird commercial move here.

Edit : Some of my viewers said clearly that they won't buy the dlc even if they love TQ because they don't have the time and will to tryhard the legendary mode for it. they will if the thing is patched though.

[Gadse]

Originally posted by Belgarion:

Originally posted by Captain OP:

What's the point of not playing on legendary?
I mean in which way would it be superior to play normal or epic instead?

Dude, you realize how arrogant you sound?
The point is: I choose to do so. Others do, too. Nobody is talking about superiority.

Personally, I think the decision to restrict the DLC to legendary difficulty is one of most stupid decisions by a game developer I have ever seen in 30+ years of gaming. You annoy part of the player base who did not realize this (granted, reading the details would help) and from a business perspective you earn less money because some players might not buy the DLC because of this. Really strange...

Why is everything ALWAYS related to money? Dont you people always complain how YOU pay to much? Now for once a company loses out on money and it is a big deal for you? Doesnt make much sense. You people have to understand that this is an ENDGAME targeted DLC, nothing else. If they would add it to epic and normal cuz people cry about it, than they would also have to rebalance the whole game because of that.

[Terotrous]

Originally posted by SirMadnessTV:

Casual players means : do not have the knowledge to create build strong enough to fit the legendary difficulty

You definitely don't need to create a good build for Legendary. The game effectively has no penalty if you die, enemies don't respawn and retain any damage taken, so you can eventually brute force your way with any build whatsoever. You can also buy scrolls if you ever run into a tough spot, they're very strong. You can also always post on the forums if you get stuck, people here are generally fairly helpful.

The real problem is that getting to the end of Legendary takes like 50-80 hours. However, this is precisely why people don't want the DLC to be in Normal and Epic. If you add it to those difficulty levels, that 50-80 hours becomes 80-120 hours.

[Lord Farquaad]

Originally posted by Terotrous:

The real problem is that getting to the end of Legendary takes like 50-80 hours. However, this is precisely why people don't want the DLC to be in Normal and Epic. If you add it to those difficulty levels, that 50-80 hours becomes 80-120 hours.

, that sounds like a good reason for me not to buy it yeah, its just too time consuming and I am just not all that interested anymore in the old maps of TQ. Maybe if it can be played as 'second' chapter for a new TQ Ragnarok character than I would give it a chance or if it is possibly to create a high level character to start in this expansion of course.

[Terotrous]

It is actually possible to create a character that starts at level 70 and can immediately access the DLC.