Bear Clan Second Fame Bonus

[Cheroth]

hi guys! i want to hear what your opionions are concerning the second fame bonus of bear clan. in my opinion it's way too weak - if i'm at 500 fame i've mostly of the time already built up my army, i'm already attacking and the boni is like zero. maybe im just unexpected, im playing northgard for 1 month now mostly wolf/bear in iron division.

[Beefers]

It is extremely weak, common to get a fame victory with bear and have gotten <50 fame from it.

[Stealthy Jeffrey]

Agreed, games really have to last forever and go quiet well to make this bonus useful. You are right that it is very weak.

However, Bear has an insanely great early game and mid game in terms of warfare. His army can really shine during the earlier stages in an offensive way (shield bearer rush) AND in a defensive way (stronger shield bearers + shield maiden + bear result in great defense). So in my opinion this clan could be broken if it had a strong late game damage buff. The lack of attack damage in the late game seems to be the only downside bear clan has related to warfare. Maybe it should get another fame bonus that is more useful but buffing its current bonus could make it too powerful I guess.

[Sotnik]

Find Kobolds or start a war.

[Ranen]

i agree the 500 fame bonus of bear is underwhelming when compared to raven, stag, boar. I mean 3 fame for killing enemies is pathetic, even wolf pillage 15 coins is better than this.

The bear clan definitely has its own niche, early rush potential and winter attacks, but now the shield bearers have been nerfed against warriors, along with early rush nerf in general, i think the clan has taken a too large of a hit. The reduction of winter affects by 30% passive is great, but that is only 3 months of the year.

I would like to see something like the boar clan 500 fame where they buff the passive, for example the 30% reduction to winter affects becomes 100%. How cool would that be, the bear clan is unaffected by winter :D

Lets face it, by the time they get 500 fame there is probably only 1 or 2 winters left before game ends.

[Sotnik]

It also grants about +10% damage in late game.

[Ranen]

Ok sorry so if i get 1000 fame which is unlikely, i get +5% AP on my 7 attack shield bearers.

Might as well just upgrade 1 shield bearers camp instead.

I should state i mainly play multiplayer as it is that community that keeps a game alive. I appreciate against AI your fame can get a lot higher.

[Sotnik]

If you are winning, you are having 1000+ fame. That is the moment wars begin. And +10% to damage (2 upgraded camps) becomes very handy then. It is close to the Wolf's +15%, but you can use it on your territory. Then an enemy comes and you gain +30 or more from every large battle. if you play offensively, you can earn 120 fame from a single war which is a good addition to raids to wolf dens. If there is a defeated clan on the map, you can also kill all the roaming clansmen. But Kobolds are the best source: with enough army they provide 54-108 fame from a single raid.

[Cheroth]

for real now - if i have already like 1k fame in a multiplayer game, a stag or raven has actually 1100 or maybe 1200 and won. starting a war at this time would be dumb as f.u.c.k.

and what should i do with like +5% or +10% dmg if im playing with shielders - thats like nothing and i dont got time to raid kobolds or dead players lol

[Sotnik]

As I managed to get advantage of the bonus, I think it is the matter of how a player handles it. More importantly, the clan is well balanced and there is no need to buff it.

[Cheroth]

dont get me wrong, i dont yell for a buff, im just saying the 500 fame bonus of bear feels like crap. the clan overall is well balanced.

[MacDog]

there a support clan that is all fully buffed shield bearers nothing is getting threw that defense unless it gets over welmed with great numbers

[Ranen]

Nothing getting through that defence? I’m pretty sure an army of equal number warriors beat shield bearers.

Bear clan should be played aggressively not defensively.

[Sotnik]

Originally posted by Ranen:

I’m pretty sure an army of equal number warriors beat shield bearers.

No. There are calculations in the main guide.

[MacDog]

Originally posted by Ranen:

i agree the 500 fame bonus of bear is underwhelming when compared to raven, stag, boar. I mean 3 fame for killing enemies is pathetic, even wolf pillage 15 coins is better than this.

The bear clan definitely has its own niche, early rush potential and winter attacks, but now the shield bearers have been nerfed against warriors, along with early rush nerf in general, i think the clan has taken a too large of a hit. The reduction of winter affects by 30% passive is great, but that is only 3 months of the year.

I would like to see something like the boar clan 500 fame where they buff the passive, for example the 30% reduction to winter affects becomes 100%. How cool would that be, the bear clan is unaffected by winter :D

Lets face it, by the time they get 500 fame there is probably only 1 or 2 winters left before game ends.

Bear clan are ♥♥♥♥♥♥ ive tried everything and theres nothing you can do to win with this clan they need a buff everywere

[Dreamer of Dreams]

They will get buffed next patch. In my eyes it’s the weakest clan in 1v1 at the moment