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Apocalypstic Apr 26, 2024 @ 2:40am
Titanomachy Conquest Battle impossible against passive AI
I'm just curious about other people's experience with it so far. I tried a new Owl Conquest on Extreme, and one of the opponents was a Goat AI. It was functionally impossible to win. The AI never moved their Titan out of their territory, and fighting inside its territory is a guaranteed loss because the Extreme AI cheats so hard that even if you're 5 Titan evolutions ahead, it doesn't matter because the AI can throw their army at you, lose it, remake a whole new army in another 15s, and throw it in again ad infinitum. In theory, I could idle for maybe 3 hours to buy enough stone from marketplaces to hopefully outpace them, but that's just mindnumbingly boring.

Also loading any saves for the scenario is bugged because it retriggers all of their stone shipment flags, instantly causing them to gain 100+ stone and 4 or more evolutions depending on how many years you're in.
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Sayumé Apr 26, 2024 @ 9:23am 
I've reported the bug you describe at the end, during the beta test. i've never been answered
Sayumé Apr 26, 2024 @ 9:29am 
The AI script is always the same. To win this conquest mission, try to win before Y803, putting all you army and the titan in a zone the ai absolutely want during their expansion phase, and before they take it. They will send their army with the titan , even if they have a clearly weakest army than yours.
This is the only way i've found to win Titanomachy in extreme.
PirateSigurd Apr 26, 2024 @ 10:03am 
Same problem on normal difficulty with Owl Conquest. Got to 807 before giving up on my first attempt, due to AI not leaving townhall. Same saveload issue.
fanboy Apr 26, 2024 @ 10:42am 
Same here, even on Easy! I control almost every zone with stone, in hope that in the end my Guardian would outlevel theirs. And boom, all AI upgrade their Guardians to lv 13 while all stone I have is not enough for lv 13. Scripted AI got free upgrade I guess.
Last edited by fanboy; Apr 26, 2024 @ 10:48am
bbodeur Apr 26, 2024 @ 3:07pm 
Yeah I just spent a bit over 2 hours scum saving this mission as the owl. All of the problems you stated make this mission close to impossible. The free 3-5 levels they gained every reload were particularly frustrating. But more specifically, the ai won't even defend their own territory if they don't think they can win. I even had one ai hide his titan in a territory locked behind his home tile, so i could never push past to try to kill him. What i ended up having to do was stock up around 100 stone every time i wanted to push in. As soon as their guardian was locked in, I'd spam out a few levels on mine.

A couple easy fixes i can think of:

1, you can attack enemy territories your army, but defending guardians can only be damaged by other guardians. You could still over extend and not be able to retreat with your guardian, but at least your army could support him from other reinforcements.

2, allow decolonization of home tiles, instead of specifically relying on having to kill their guardian. At least the ai wouldn't be able to just hide in a corner.

Assuming any fix will take them a while, there were some other things that helped win this mission. One was a really lucky rat infestation that took out about 1/4th of their guardian's health. I also allied the elves, and a timely raid by them turned out to be just enough extra dps for me to win the final fight. Otherwise, a greater trade route's stone shipments will help on top of a marketplace. All that said, it's really not worth even trying. Overall, just an irritating waste of time.
Pandastark Jun 4, 2024 @ 3:41am 
same problem .. .. i am now on 812 ad, and the last snake AI it just passive, but get free upgrades i think... i almost have the whole map on my side. but i cant defeat the passive snake ai... .
Ansy1999 Jun 13, 2024 @ 10:19am 
I have the same problem. Enemies guardians won't leave their clan territories. They have no access to stone but still upgrade guardians (free upgrade maybe?) and even when I have higher level, they easily beat me because their army can help. I really like the owl clan but this mission gets tiring very quickly.
Heim Jun 22, 2024 @ 9:30am 
I had the issue you had. Key is to bait the titan into neutral territory the enemy clan is in the process of colonising and trap it with yours, then it can't leave and you can reinforce. If you're border to border then it's just gg.
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Date Posted: Apr 26, 2024 @ 2:40am
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