owl clan understandings

[Zerzuskan]

Its very unfortunate and while i like the concept of the owl clan currently the interface is pretty ♥♥♥♥ imo. Most of the time im not sure if a lore i have "explored" is now active or not. And this seems to be the whole point of the clan.

I have just played my first game against some AI and while i won i consider this win with almost no real impact of the lore. And i had every single lore, with some of them twice.

For example the one that sucks stone and iron: in some territories it tells you it wont do anything because there are not ressources but you can totally place it within enemy territory with stone. No warning. It was highlighted green as if thats a good spot but it will not actually grant you ressources. If you click on the stone the progress bar will fill itself but upon reaching 100% it will just reset and nothing happens

Then the one that steals lore: I got snake lore from my 2 vs 2 game and the one i got was Guerrilla warfare. the description says you will permanently get 0-20% (max) damage bonus when xy and i consider myself an experienced player. I know how this works when you play the snake. But my current % was permanently at 0.

The lore that gives you a defense bonus depending on your lore produktion buildings doesnt tell you how much bonus defense you are actually getting currently.

Conclusion: Most of the lores do not show their effect in detail and you are left to guessing if something is working or if you have even understood it.

[ArcyPaweł]

Did you attack someone? Guirella warfare give bonus only when fighthing on enemy teritory. If you did and didn't get bonus then its probably a bug

[DomiIRL]

The mining branch only grants stone to the owner of the zone like most of the branches only impact the owner of the zone. Only if its written that "Your Clan" will gain something you will.

[Zerzuskan]

Originally posted by ArcyPaweł:

Did you attack someone? Guirella warfare give bonus only when fighthing on enemy teritory. If you did and didn't get bonus then its probably a bug

Yes, fought normally on enemy territory, both civilians and military. I fought the way it would give a bonus with snakes

[Zerzuskan]

Originally posted by KxmischesDomi:

The mining branch only grants stone to the owner of the zone like most of the branches only impact the owner of the zone. Only if its written that "Your Clan" will gain something you will.

Then it should not show the enemy territory in green with the overlay imo

[Sayumé]

The mining branch gives you stone/iron only if it is on neutral or in your territory. It's written in the tooltip. If it is in another clan territory, it gives this stone/iron to them. The best place is on a dwarf tile, or a neutral far from another clan where there is a lot of stone/iron.
And IMO the best clan to place the ''stoling knowledge branch''' is Ox, because it synergise very well with your relic, a must have for the owl.

[Aratorin]

Originally posted by Sayumé:

The mining branch gives you stone/iron only if it is on neutral or in your territory. It's written in the tooltip. If it is in another clan territory, it gives this stone/iron to them. The best place is on a dwarf tile, or a neutral far from another clan where there is a lot of stone/iron.
And IMO the best clan to place the ''stoling knowledge branch''' is Ox, because it synergise very well with your relic, a must have for the owl.

I don't think that's correct. It collects the ore for you, unless the owning clan has 30% or better relation with you. If they spied on your town hall, and improved relations, then it started gathering for them. If you attacked them and were actively at war, it would be gathering for you.

[Sildraug]

Originally posted by Aratorin:

I don't think that's correct. It collects the ore for you, unless the owning clan has 30% or better relation with you. If they spied on your town hall, and improved relations, then it started gathering for them. If you attacked them and were actively at war, it would be gathering for you.

Unfortunately, from testing I've done, no. If it's in hostile territory, the collection stops entirely. You can check by selecting the mineral deposit itself--if the knowledge is producing, it ticks % to next unit, and will do that in neutral territory. It stops ticking if the enemy colonizes the tile.

The knowledge also tells you who it is impacting when you select it, and if it's in the territory of a low-opinion enemy clan, it'll mention it's not impacting anyone.

[Zerzuskan]

Originally posted by Sildraug:

Originally posted by Aratorin:

I don't think that's correct. It collects the ore for you, unless the owning clan has 30% or better relation with you. If they spied on your town hall, and improved relations, then it started gathering for them. If you attacked them and were actively at war, it would be gathering for you.

Unfortunately, from testing I've done, no. If it's in hostile territory, the collection stops entirely. You can check by selecting the mineral deposit itself--if the knowledge is producing, it ticks % to next unit, and will do that in neutral territory. It stops ticking if the enemy colonizes the tile.

The knowledge also tells you who it is impacting when you select it, and if it's in the territory of a low-opinion enemy clan, it'll mention it's not impacting anyone.

I cant confirm that. I had the experience that i was seletion the mineral lore and literally the very only territory marked in green was the enemy territory. Therefore i placed it there. When selecting the ore deposit it will tick the % forward when the enemy is not collecting it CLEARLY it should belong to the collecting of your yggdrasil branch. Except its not collecting it at all. When the % is at 100% the remaining ore amount remainds unchanged

[Zerzuskan]

Also it is fair to say that is shouldnt be collecting the ore as there is no real counterplay to this for the enemy. For balancing purposes its fair that it should only collect in your own, allied or neutral territory. The problem is that 1. the green overlay and 2. the ore % progressions suggest otherwise (false information)