Conquest is ruined

[☠NDB☠]

Now it feels impossible to win against 3 enemy AI on Conquest (Extreme). I tried and this is total B U L L S H I T, I get attacked non-stop, I can't produce people at the rate they are getting killed.

And this is coming from someone who has been playing for a long time.

It's 10 times worse when one of the AI is Ox clan with all 3 items on the Warchief and full lore on military tree, you just can't win.

Altar is pretty much useless now, games are over before it becomes even remotely useful (and nobody goes for fame victory, ever).

And Negotiation is bugged (either the description or the effect).

Get your stuff together, this is pathetic.

[JayTwoPointOh [Shiro]]

Originally posted by ⚔ NDB ⚔:

Now it feels impossible to win against 3 enemy AI on Conquest (Extreme). I tried and this is total B U L L S H I T, I get attacked non-stop, I can't produce people at the rate they are getting killed.

And this is coming from someone who has been playing for a long time.

It's 10 times worse when one of the AI is Ox clan with all 3 items on the Warchief and full lore on military tree, you just can't win.

Altar is pretty much useless now, games are over before it becomes even remotely useful (and nobody goes for fame victory, ever).

And Negotiation is bugged (either the description or the effect).

Get your stuff together, this is pathetic.

Hey NDB,

Conquest was thoroughly tested with the most recent update before release and I can assure you all challenges are able to be completed with all clans. It's very possible you got a few unfortunate seed generations :/

And we're aware of the Negotiation bug, working to get it fixed as we speak :)

Also, I've had to delete your follow up posts in this thread. Please refrain from using offensive language in the forums, this is a family friendly game and as such a family friendly forum and we do not tolerate such conduct here.

Thanks,
James

[☠NDB☠]

Originally posted by JayTwoPointOh Shiro:

Originally posted by ⚔ NDB ⚔:

Now it feels impossible to win against 3 enemy AI on Conquest (Extreme). I tried and this is total B U L L S H I T, I get attacked non-stop, I can't produce people at the rate they are getting killed.

And this is coming from someone who has been playing for a long time.

It's 10 times worse when one of the AI is Ox clan with all 3 items on the Warchief and full lore on military tree, you just can't win.

Altar is pretty much useless now, games are over before it becomes even remotely useful (and nobody goes for fame victory, ever).

And Negotiation is bugged (either the description or the effect).

Get your stuff together, this is pathetic.

Hey NDB,

Conquest was thoroughly tested with the most recent update before release and I can assure you all challenges are able to be completed with all clans. It's very possible you got a few unfortunate seed generations :/

And we're aware of the Negotiation bug, working to get it fixed as we speak :)

Also, I've had to delete your follow up posts in this thread. Please refrain from using offensive language in the forums, this is a family friendly game and as such a family friendly forum and we do not tolerate such conduct here.

Thanks,
James

Fine, if you think it's not frustrating, that is your own problem. I cannot agree with your views though. In time, others will mention exactly what I have.

[Arlecc]

Originally posted by JayTwoPointOh Shiro:

Originally posted by ⚔ NDB ⚔:

Now it feels impossible to win against 3 enemy AI on Conquest (Extreme). I tried and this is total B U L L S H I T, I get attacked non-stop, I can't produce people at the rate they are getting killed.

And this is coming from someone who has been playing for a long time.

It's 10 times worse when one of the AI is Ox clan with all 3 items on the Warchief and full lore on military tree, you just can't win.

Altar is pretty much useless now, games are over before it becomes even remotely useful (and nobody goes for fame victory, ever).

And Negotiation is bugged (either the description or the effect).

Get your stuff together, this is pathetic.

Hey NDB,

Conquest was thoroughly tested with the most recent update before release and I can assure you all challenges are able to be completed with all clans. It's very possible you got a few unfortunate seed generations :/

And we're aware of the Negotiation bug, working to get it fixed as we speak :)

Also, I've had to delete your follow up posts in this thread. Please refrain from using offensive language in the forums, this is a family friendly game and as such a family friendly forum and we do not tolerate such conduct here.

Thanks,
James

Yeah, funny graphics when you win the contest against 3 AI, a good job is simply to raise resources for bots, quickie! :)

[Arlecc]

Is that how you tested the conquest? So should Dragon AI (Red) progress on maximum difficulty?
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2028286346

[Leo Eisenherz]

Originally posted by JayTwoPointOh Shiro:

Originally posted by ⚔ NDB ⚔:

Now it feels impossible to win against 3 enemy AI on Conquest (Extreme). I tried and this is total B U L L S H I T, I get attacked non-stop, I can't produce people at the rate they are getting killed.

And this is coming from someone who has been playing for a long time.

It's 10 times worse when one of the AI is Ox clan with all 3 items on the Warchief and full lore on military tree, you just can't win.

Altar is pretty much useless now, games are over before it becomes even remotely useful (and nobody goes for fame victory, ever).

And Negotiation is bugged (either the description or the effect).

Get your stuff together, this is pathetic.

Hey NDB,

Conquest was thoroughly tested with the most recent update before release and I can assure you all challenges are able to be completed with all clans. It's very possible you got a few unfortunate seed generations :/

And we're aware of the Negotiation bug, working to get it fixed as we speak :)

Also, I've had to delete your follow up posts in this thread. Please refrain from using offensive language in the forums, this is a family friendly game and as such a family friendly forum and we do not tolerate such conduct here.

Thanks,
James

You guys kidding ! NBD is right extreme conquest is ruined now the hole game is ♥♥♥♥ now thats the , no build order is working anymore thats the first time i feel i want my money back for it. I dont play 100 times the same lvl for no fun. More aggressive is cool but delete the hacks from the AI and godamned patch yggradsil 2k food 3 tiles with silo should be enough and make this mission possible to win when not 2 cheaters blocking your last 2 needed foodtiles and The Curse one, remove dead villager transform into draugr that the AI mates are possibly a help like in the mission description only Wolf clan can beat this lv alone because he can run with army the hole game

[Corpserule]

I've been winning against 3 AI on conquest on Extreme, even after the patch with (Raven and Kraken) in several matches.

My friend also finished the first level of the wolf, which is straight up Vs 3 AI on Extreme.

I think it's fine to complain about any difficulty being too hard except the highest. Complaining hard is too hard only causes grief for players who are able to complete these challenges. Lowering the replayability for the players who are able to deal with it.

[FuRy]

I’ve beaten extreme mode before and after this newest patch. Yes, the patch isn’t perfect and has some glitches (one of my games, 2 clans were able to run through rocks and climb on rocks which was kind of funny) but if you don’t like hard difficulties don’t play it on extreme mode. I’d actually prefer a harder difficulty because I love challenges and being pushed to the limit. I love this game and I hope they continue to add more clans and features. Keep up the good work Shiro, you guys rock.

[fbuddha]

Count me among those who are leaving and frustrated. I spent about 15 hours trying different strategies to beat the final conquest for snake clan called Hostile. I'm all for a challenge but this felt impossible and I encourage you to look into the balance. The in game advice is to expand early and attack with skirmishers which I found to be a recipe for disaster.

The main issue is that the 3 clans are basically one team, they attack and defend together right from start, and are hyper aggressive. One on one those clan heroes are stronger than Signy especially in the early years. I really dont see how an early offensive can work.

[Arlecc]

LMAO. Shiro are your game testers masochists? What kind of drugs you took to consider such a map generation is normal. On the left are goblins, on the right are elves (they have a way only to me). :D
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2031011087
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2031010953
Godfathers with more than 2000 hours. Your winning strategy is very interesting on this particular map gen.

[Leo Eisenherz]

Remove last ♥♥♥♥♥♥ patch its impossible to beat 3 AI shiro it sucks

[☠NDB☠]

I finally managed to do the map with dragon (hostile lands on extreme), but only after getting every other conquest bonus and rushing the AI as fast as I could to take out 1 or 2 early. I managed, but it did not feel rewarding or fun or relaxing, it felt stressful and frustrating. The AI had 80% of the map colonized in just 2 years, I had to go through 5 tiles to get to the capital, 3 of them with towers and the capital with 2 upgraded towers. The AI has ridiculous bonuses to make up for its ♥♥♥♥♥♥ actual programming.

Make the AI have skill, not insane bonuses. How is it fair for the AI to colonize everything in sight, be 3 of them, have food and gold all the time and do basically nothing to deserve these things. Why is the AI exempt from the rules of the game? 2 upgraded towers on the same tile in a 3v1 setting...

[Roast_Beef_Gravy]

I have to agree with the others. Skirmishes are fun and the main campaign feels good, but conquest mode is ridiculous when you're getting dogpiled by three AI and can't keep up.

[JayTwoPointOh [Shiro]]

Hey Guys,

We're looking into this and working on the AI side of things as we speak, so hopefully we'll be able to bring things down a notch.

In the meantime, it would be appreciated if you guys could provide details on the specific conquests you're struggling with and some details about what exactly is causing you hassle, that way we can start identifying the key issues and working on a resolution.

James

[☠NDB☠]

For me it is the 3v1 maps (surrounded, hostile lands), especially the ones that have an Ox clan. Some people have been complaining about the blizzard one, but I never played that one. It is true they are not impossible, but they feel very, very unfair (and I imagine they are impossible for certain clans).

There is also the Jotun one, I only finished that one with snake clan, it is probably more difficult with other clans since you can't move freely through their camp.

[☠NDB☠]

Okay, tried Jotun one with krakken... this is just stupid. They attack me and the Jotun, I killed 9 warchiefs and they keep on coming. I can't defend the Jotun since they are in the middle, I can't trade fast enough (even with 5 trade posts) and I keep getting attacked as well.

At least put 4 Jotun on each tile, why the hell are there 2 Jotun only when I can't defend them and the enemy has 3 armies that all attack at the same time? The enemy has huge army by the time you are even at 50% trade influence. What is the strategy?