Planescape: Torment: Enhanced Edition

Planescape: Torment: Enhanced Edition

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This, Pillars 1 or Pathfinder?
This, Pillars 1 or Pathfinder?
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oldrocker99 Oct 30, 2020 @ 5:06pm 
This game is one of the primary influences on the others. It's also the best story of any CRPG.
mikeydsc Oct 30, 2020 @ 8:42pm 
PT:ED - Is a good game - probably best character development (backgrounds and other character building details) in any game.

Pillars 1 - very very long game. Its good but as all games do, it has a couple shortcomings. Been over 2 years since I last played it so can not comment on current condition.

Pathfinder is a buggy mess right now. Several feats do not work , or only partially work. Some quests done out of order fubars other quests. SOme synergies dont apply right when used together. One poster has a long list of broken stuff in the game that the devs have not fixed since early access.
HeLLfire Nov 1, 2020 @ 7:02am 
Yes.
battl3hamm3r Nov 3, 2020 @ 6:58pm 
Originally posted by oldrocker99:
This game is one of the primary influences on the others. It's also the best story of any CRPG.
What he said!

This is the best CRPG that was ever made even though Baldurs Gate 2 is more popular, maybe because its more story oriented and less action...
Last edited by battl3hamm3r; Nov 3, 2020 @ 6:59pm
Underc0ver_K Nov 12, 2020 @ 4:11pm 
This hands down. I have not played Pathfinder yet, but I did play Pillars. I didn't like it much. Usually I have no problems with there being a lot of text in video games, but in Pillars there is a difference. Most of the text is there just to be text, it does not add anything to the story (much of it was also written by Kickstarter backers). There is quite a bit of combat and in my opinion it is just bad. I never finished the game, quit right before the end of the game and never bothered to finish it.
✙205🍉🐆→ Nov 26, 2020 @ 1:56pm 
absolutely stupid question
breakfast, lunch or dinner?
Noir Nov 27, 2020 @ 12:02am 
Originally posted by TheKiurK:
This hands down. I have not played Pathfinder yet, but I did play Pillars. I didn't like it much. Usually I have no problems with there being a lot of text in video games, but in Pillars there is a difference. Most of the text is there just to be text, it does not add anything to the story (much of it was also written by Kickstarter backers). There is quite a bit of combat and in my opinion it is just bad. I never finished the game, quit right before the end of the game and never bothered to finish it.

You can turn off the kickstarter text stuff though and only have the actual story parts left in the game. Maybe that was a mod though. The combat is basically just an evolution from the BG combat.
Mysti_Fogg Nov 27, 2020 @ 1:27pm 
I'd pick this one.
缝线 Nov 29, 2020 @ 6:29am 
Just pick one you like,those two games are just about right.(I have picked P1)

If the story or text is the most thing you care in PST,you may try Disco Elysium.And BG2(with Improved Anvil) might be the top of DND(2E) battle logic performance.
Player333676 Dec 3, 2020 @ 11:08am 
Originally posted by mikeydsc:
PT:ED - Is a good game - probably best character development (backgrounds and other character building details) in any game.

Pillars 1 - very very long game. Its good but as all games do, it has a couple shortcomings. Been over 2 years since I last played it so can not comment on current condition.

Pathfinder is a buggy mess right now. Several feats do not work , or only partially work. Some quests done out of order fubars other quests. SOme synergies dont apply right when used together. One poster has a long list of broken stuff in the game that the devs have not fixed since early access.
I disagree with Pathfinder, all the bugs have been fixed by now.

Of the 3 games mentioned in the original post, I'd say Planescape > Pathfinder > Pillars
Pillars 1 is also a good game, but it just drags on for very long, and unlike BG2 it isn't SO great and diverse that the content can support that extreme length. You mostly fight the same enemies over and over.
Pathfinder: Kingmaker has the best graphics and combat out of the 3, if you care about that. While Pathfinder has the best combat system, Pillars is probably the most combat-heavy. Planescape by far has the best story. Regarding the setting, both Planescape and Pillars are unique, whereas Pathfinder: Kingmaker is kind of "standard" fantasy.
Pathfinder is the best regarding the character system, class variety and the freedom when leveling up - overall the best if you want to play a custom character.

Overall I'd say regarding the different mechanics:
Graphics: Pathfinder > Pillars > Planescape
Story / Setting: Planescape > Pillars > Pathfinder
Companions / characters: Planescape > Pillars > Pathfinder
Combat system: Pathfinder > Pillars > Planescape
Story over combat (how often you can avoid fights): Planescape > Pathfinder > Pillars
Leveling system: Pathfinder > Planescape > Pillars
Lack of frustation / how fun the flow of gameplay feels: Planescape > Pathfinder > Pillars
Variety of gameplay: Pathfinder > Planescape > Pillars

Some additional story-focused RPGs I can recommend: Disco Elyisum and Arcanum: Of Steamworks and Magic Obscura.
Last edited by Player333676; Dec 3, 2020 @ 11:15am
mikeydsc Dec 3, 2020 @ 11:20am 
^ If you are referring to patch of Oct 13, so it fixed a few bugs, out of the many many noted ones in the forums. I still stand by my conclusions. They fixed 2 or 3 feats, out of the 10 or so bugged ones.

Glad you enjoyed it.
Last edited by mikeydsc; Dec 3, 2020 @ 11:20am
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