Idling to Rule the Gods

Idling to Rule the Gods

Monpad Sep 16, 2017 @ 2:10am
Unused god power
Is there any rule of thumb as to how much unused god power to keep? When do you decide to spend your god power?
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muljostpho Sep 16, 2017 @ 3:09am 
Someone had told me that 10% of what you've previously spent before (look for the total listed in your statistics) is what you should try to maintain in banked GP. I don't know though whether that's considered to be a firm rule regardless of any other conditions or if you can be lenient about it as you build up crystal power. (I just know that most of the time you'll want the extra GP allocated into mystic plus either physical or battle. mystic+battle might be stronger earlier in a run but at some point mystic+physical will become far more powerful. Creation does not get considered at any point.)

So for example I'm at a bit over 10k total spent GP now so my target is to keep around 1k stats banked. With over 5k crystal power though, techincally each 1 GP that I allocate to a stat is worth a fraction over 6% bonus instead of only being 1%. So I'd imagine that it wouldn't hurt anything too much for me to bank as little as 1/6 of that amount instead.

I can't really give advice on what upgrades to prioritize or when to shift your priorities to something else (I've done nothing to try and be efficient about it), but when you've got some idea what you're trying to accomplish just try to wait until you've got that many extra GP on top of the target amount that you're trying to keep banked.

So for example if I want +100k clones for my next purchase I'll wait until I have over 1250 GP banked so that spending 250 GP on that upgrade lands me right back at the target amount.
Last edited by muljostpho; Sep 16, 2017 @ 3:25am
Darth Faber Sep 16, 2017 @ 7:20am 
Same here. I stick with the 10% reserve, build up until I have enough to buy the next thing I want (build speed / creation speed / clones / creation count) and but it.
The 10% rule was created befdore CP existed, but I stick with it. It's easy to calculate, and spending a bunch of my banked GP would slightly increase my build speed/etc, but I think I'd notice the stat decrease more.
sfnhltb Sep 16, 2017 @ 11:07am 
I just keep a round number (1000 in each of phys/mystic/battle currently, hmm and 30k spent, so guess I am in the 10% camp) and every now and then boost it to a higher number if I don't have anything pressing needed in terms of clones/bs/cs. Whatever I am saving up to spend just goes into physical temporarily for convenience as that is where it is spent from. The only time I temporarily overspend into the banked points is for statistic multiplier if needed when reaching new P Baals.
Hikaru Sep 16, 2017 @ 5:46pm 
I also keep 10%. I round it to the nearest 500 though and generally keep a 4/1 physical/mystic allocation. When I fight UBv2 though, I shift all of it to mystic in order to regen hp fast.

Generally for spending it, I wait until I have around 750 to spend, then buy 100k clones, 875 bs, and 5 cc all at once. Those cost 250 gp each so it's easy to figure out how much to spend. After I spend enough, I choose to save another 500 to keep around the 10% mark and just keep going from there.
muljostpho Sep 16, 2017 @ 9:19pm 
Yeah, definitely with the rounding instead of worrying about precise calculations. I'm at 10,064 previously spent, to be exact. But I'm not going to fuss over 6.4 points. I'll call it 1000, not 1006.4. And I had been rounding up to 1000 while the amount previously spent was somewhere in the mid to high 9000s too.
sfnhltb Sep 17, 2017 @ 9:19am 
Originally posted by muljostpho:
So for example I'm at a bit over 10k total spent GP now so my target is to keep around 1k stats banked. With over 5k crystal power though, techincally each 1 GP that I allocate to a stat is worth a fraction over 6% bonus instead of only being 1%. So I'd imagine that it wouldn't hurt anything too much for me to bank as little as 1/6 of that amount instead.

Probably the crystal bonus has little or no effect on the recommendation due to the unintuitive way additive bonuses work.

To try and make a clean example, lets have two additive bonuses A and B:

Bonus A gives x3 to your dps per point spent, but additively (so the second point is x6, third point is x9, etc)

Bonus B gives x100 to your dps per point spent, but additively as well (so the second point is x200, third is x300 and so on).

So we obviously spend the first point on B and are now x100 our existing dps. The next point we earn we spend on A for x300 (instead of the second point on B which only gets us x200). The third point is even stranger - you can buy a second point in either A or B to get to x600, but then the next purchase should be the second level of the other for x1200 (a third point in A or B gets us only x900).

Lets say at some point we now have 10 levels in each, to give us x30,000. Now you pick up some item that makes Bonus B six times more powerful - x600 per level, giving us x180,000. Could we now respec and buy less levels of A and more of B to get a higher value? Nope, still 10 in each is the best option.

It gets a little more complicated when things cost different amounts (you spend an equal amount in each bonus), or are +n% instead of multipliers (the bigger effect then is slightly preferred, or even might be much stronger at first if the numbers involved are quite small, but this effect gets smaller the more levels of each you have), or where they boost different stats/abilities (which usually ends with a ratio of the two bonuses to buy that stays the same, so once you have the "correct" distribution, your future spending will be in the same ratio).

Another way to look at it is that removing half your GP from your unused bank would halve your stats, so you would have to spend that GP on something that would give an effect that boosts your more than that loss, and that was true before the crystal bonus appears and after it (and whatever it grows to over time), so your decisions should be largely unchanged of where to spend GP.
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