Bayonetta is a game that had a different name

[Sweeper]

Nightshade

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TKJP35KU68c

anu die hard sega fan would know this. if u played nightshade the game literally is bayonetta. bayonetta is just a different template.
nightshade is a female shinobi. if u see her face it is very similar to bayonetta. the whole game is basically what bayonetta became

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oNL64sa5MWg

in bayonetta 2 your friend or rival has a similar color theme skip to 33.49 and u can see her

[Thundercracker]

what? no!

now my memory isnt perfect, but wasent the central gimmic in that game tagging each enemy once and killing everyone with a special attack?

the only real similarities i see is that kunochi is a character action game starring a female.

[Sweeper]

Originally posted by Dr Gori:

what? no!

now my memory isnt perfect, but wasent the central gimmic in that game tagging each enemy once and killing everyone with a special attack?

the only real similarities i see is that kunochi is a character action game starring a female.

u should play the game again to start knowin those videos are only sequences of the game. she plays like bayonetta and that girl in 33.49 is a foe but also a friend kinda like in bayonetta strange relation. bayonetta took this template and abstractly changed it in a way making it the same yet different game. obviously sega's nightshade was a niche game that has been forgotten in oblivion and it wasnt hard to rebuild from that game to a different game but i finished both shinobi on ps2 and nightshade. and u will surely feel it when u replay it. nd u will even love it like u love bayonetta.

ofcourse the nightshade character was a silent one not showing a character for the shinobi that she is.

[Dekaku]

Doesnt hold up if you think about it. If we follow your logic, Nightshade would also qualify as a "game that originally had a different name" - Devil May Cry, which released 2 years prior to Nightshade and has very similar gameplay. There's also the Onimusha series to consider which also released 2 years prior to it. The Dev is different, the story and artstyle is completely different etc.

Now, it is possible, that those similarities you mentioned were placed there on purpose as a easter egg, a silent nod to everyone who knows Nightshade, but from what I can tell, bayonetta has more in common with Devil May Cry than Nightshade.

By the way, doesnt mean that I think that Nightshade is a bad game, I just dont think that it is a previous incarnation of said game.

[Crusta]

What the ♥♥♥♥ are you on about kid? i've extensively played both Shinobi (the prequel) and Nightshade on PS2 and the gameplay has nothing to do with Bayonetta or Devil May Cry. Shinobi and Nightshade has enemy rush gameplay design around 1 hit kill chains. There isn't a single QTE, torture attack, combo variance or that kind of stuff in Shinobi/Nightshade.

Just because Hibana is a sexy female protagonist and there is a similar stage where you fight on a plane doesn't mean that Bayonetta copied anything from that game. That's just japanese developers doing their over the top stuff.

[Sweeper]

Originally posted by N aguento + MOrrê:

What the ♥♥♥♥ are you on about kid? i've extensively played both Shinobi (the prequel) and Nightshade on PS2 and the gameplay has nothing to do with Bayonetta or Devil May Cry. Shinobi and Nightshade has enemy rush gameplay design around 1 hit kill chains. Also there isn't a single QTE, torture attack, combo variance or that kind of stuff in Shinobi/Nightshade.

Just because Hibana is a sexy female protagonist and there is a similar stage where you fight on a plane doesn't mean that Bayonetta copied anything from that game. That's just japanese developers at their work you silly thing.

yeah but there is clearly a link in those games and u also mentioned that plane. obviously bayonetta devs might v been devs in this game nightshade as well. by the way nice to find someone who actually played shonobi and nightshade. sega fans back in the day were crying like its a mediocre game when clearly it wasnt mediocre

[Crusta]

indeed i play and like Nightshade way more than Bayonetta. But they're different games.

[Sweeper]

Originally posted by N aguento + MOrrê:

in fact i play Nightshade way more than Bayonetta.

i just finished it once. shinobi ps2 likewise . i loved nighshade more but ofcourse shinobi was the firt game and basically new to the devs i believe. i cant help but link the game to bayonetta not directly but the idea is there

[Gore08]

In nightshade if you just lightly press the analog stick to make the character 'walk' she'll have a similar if not the same walking animation as beyonetta. Kinda cool to be honest.

[geoneil]

Originally posted by Julaybib جليبيب:

Nightshade

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TKJP35KU68c

anu die hard sega fan would know this. if u played nightshade the game literally is bayonetta. bayonetta is just a different template.
nightshade is a female shinobi. if u see her face it is very similar to bayonetta. the whole game is basically what bayonetta became

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oNL64sa5MWg

in bayonetta 2 your friend or rival has a similar color theme skip to 33.49 and u can see her

I'll have to give that a play.