[SPOILERS] Bayonetta 1 vs Bayonetta 2 - Secret Boss Platinum Ticket

[Teero]

I just beat Rodin in Bayonetta 2. Even though I used the "easy" Rosa/Bracelet of Time method, it took me quite a while to finally beat him. At least I got a Platinum.

Anyway, what I would like to know is which game has the harder Rodin fight. I have not yet fought him in Bayo 1. I'm assuming the mere fact that you can't use Witch Time in the Bayo 1 fight makes him harder from the get-go. But let's say purely from the moveset he has, which one is more difficult?

[Setnaro X]

It largely depends on how the approach towards Rodin is handled. As a general fight, aiming for a Platinum without cheesing any tactics, B1 Rodin is harder because he only has a few handful of attacks that you can witch time, whereas every attack B2 Rodin does can be witch timed. B2 Rodin's aggressiveness falls more in your favor because it's fairly easy to activate witch time through constant dodging so long as you pace yourself out between dodges, or if you simply use Jeanne to get around the abusive dodge cool down.

For cheesing tactics, B2 Rodin is harder because even with the most powerful moves you have in your possession, Rodin seldomly flinches and even if you knock him down, most of his wake up attacks are absurdly instant. B1 Rodin can suffer hitstuns with well timed wicked weaves, so if you equip the Climax Brace which gives Bayonetta's unlimited wicked weaves which she usually reserves for her serious mode against Bosses, B1 Rodin becomes a lot easier to handle. Note that I say "easier", not "easy", because he's still a force to be reckoned with.

That is of course if you decide to go into the super extra cheesy tactics i.e. the Kilgore glitch or just flat out abusing the Kilgore attached to your feet with Climax Brace equipped like what is demonstrated here:
http://xboxdvr.com/gamer/Setnaro%20X/video/21790689

[Teero]

I am always veeeery hesitant to call out ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ when it comes to the fairness of certain attack patterns and wind-up frames, but some of Rodins attacks in Bayo 2 are just insane. You really have to dodge by instinct/prediction for some of them (at least I felt that way) which is really frustrating. I am a pretty chill guy when it comes to tough enemies and bosses, but when I got hit sometimes seemingly out of nowhere I felt this heat in my chest let me tell you. No Ludwig, no Orphan of Kos, no Nameless King, no Vanquish Tactical Challange 6 had me filled with anger and frustration like this guy.

But yeah, it seems that Bayo 1 Rodin has way more room for cheesy tactics than in Bayo 2. I've also seen one where you can beat him in like 20~ seconds. I think it was with charged Pillow Talk and Climax Brace.