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Geolyn 8 DIC 2017 a las 7:59 p. m.
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Bayonetta 3 - No PC, No Buy.
Simple as that.

If you're ok with Bayonetta 2&3 being a switch exclusive, good for you guys, I ain't taking that away from you. I'm just not into wasting $300 just to play 1 game. Sorry.
Última edición por Geolyn; 11 MAR 2018 a las 8:38 p. m.
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Publicado originalmente por Mosh:
Publicado originalmente por Problem Slayer!:
I like how this dude calls the PC community peasants. Everything consoles have today is from the PC, even their insults.
Nah. Dota 2/CSGO addicts etc. are the real peasants. At least console gamers pay for their games.
whoever legitimately plays these types of games as their main game have something seriously wrong with their brain
Gigadesu! 16 JUN 2019 a las 7:09 a. m. 
Publicado originalmente por Mosh:
Publicado originalmente por Problem Slayer!:
I like how this dude calls the PC community peasants. Everything consoles have today is from the PC, even their insults.
Nah. Dota 2/CSGO addicts etc. are the real peasants. At least console gamers pay for their games.
Glad I'm not you.
ツkaiserlee❟❛❟ 16 JUN 2019 a las 7:16 a. m. 
lol
christ above please help the moba players
Abdu 16 JUN 2019 a las 11:59 a. m. 
Publicado originalmente por Problem Slayer!:
I like how this dude calls the PC community peasants. Everything consoles have today is from the PC, even their insults.
ROFL
AD2001 18 JUN 2019 a las 5:10 a. m. 
Publicado originalmente por Human-Wolf Police:
*This one looks over his shoulder, glancing at his gaming PC, PS4 and NSwitch*
*Tries to find any logic in the ret@rded statements of the past 50 pages*
*Shrugs*

If your local store suddenly stops selling cheese, which you enjoyed since childhood, what would you do? Drug your lazy ass towards slightly different store or sit down on the street, whining and crying, like a filthy scrub?

I, personally, don't remember any public whining that "AAA" movies stopped coming to CD disks or VHS tapes(I'm that old, yeah). It is called "progress" - for the bad or for the worst it happens. Period.

How about we come to the conclusion that:

Console players - majority of you are ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ because of your circlejerking masturbation sessions, during which you discuss how awesome you are and others are not.

PC players - - majority of you are ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ because of your circlejerking masturbation sessions, during which you discuss how awesome you are and others are not.

Just. Play. The F$cking. Games. You. Enjoy.

FFS, people in this timeline can only whine about how unfair everything is...


I enjoy them all. I'd Like an X-box, but I wouldn't get much value out of it.


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Publicado originalmente por Mosh:
Nah. Dota 2/CSGO addicts etc. are the real peasants. At least console gamers pay for their games.
whoever legitimately plays these types of games as their main game have something seriously wrong with their brain

it's a game they enjoy. Big deal, if they have fun, then let them. IMO Cannot stand Dota/LOL, but if someone likes it, ok. No reason to lose sleep at night.
Thundercracker 18 JUN 2019 a las 10:22 a. m. 
Publicado originalmente por DirkDoom:
it's a game they enjoy. Big deal, if they have fun, then let them. IMO Cannot stand Dota/LOL, but if someone likes it, ok. No reason to lose sleep at night.
noooooooo! everyone must only like what i like! if someone likes something else, obviously they are defective in some way, and must needs be corrected.
Charged Dreamer 18 JUN 2019 a las 11:27 a. m. 
Publicado originalmente por Mosh:
Publicado originalmente por Problem Slayer!:
I like how this dude calls the PC community peasants. Everything consoles have today is from the PC, even their insults.
Nah. Dota 2/CSGO addicts etc. are the real peasants. At least console gamers pay for their games.

lmao speaking of Dota 2 Valve has announced a new game. It's a free-to-play "auto chess" clone called Dota Underlords. It's coming on Steam/Android/iOS. Valve was bragging how its going to be Epic and will support cross-platform with mobile. xD

https://www.firstpost.com/tech/gaming/valve-announces-standalone-version-of-auto-chess-clone-called-dota-underlords-6821291.html
geoneil 20 JUN 2019 a las 2:29 a. m. 
What are your opinions on Epic Games Store?

They fund developers to make games in exchange for exclusivity, just like Nintendo did with Bayonetta.

Epic Games bring games to the PC, which is more than what Nintendo do.

Epic Games allow their exclusives to be released on rival platforms on the same day, unlike Nintendo.

And Epic exclusives are usually timed exclusives, they'll eventually make their way onto other PC gaming storefronts... unlike Nintendo exclusives which remain exclusive to Nintendo consoles FOREVER
Última edición por geoneil; 20 JUN 2019 a las 2:29 a. m.
StarlessAeon 20 JUN 2019 a las 5:21 a. m. 
Publicado originalmente por geoneil:
What are your opinions on Epic Games Store?

They fund developers to make games in exchange for exclusivity, just like Nintendo did with Bayonetta.

Epic Games bring games to the PC, which is more than what Nintendo do.

Epic Games allow their exclusives to be released on rival platforms on the same day, unlike Nintendo.

And Epic exclusives are usually timed exclusives, they'll eventually make their way onto other PC gaming storefronts... unlike Nintendo exclusives which remain exclusive to Nintendo consoles FOREVER
Um, thats not a positive thing. Gamers want Nintendo gone. Thats like saying someone was taken hostage forever.
geoneil 20 JUN 2019 a las 7:17 a. m. 
Publicado originalmente por Starless Æon:
Publicado originalmente por geoneil:
What are your opinions on Epic Games Store?

They fund developers to make games in exchange for exclusivity, just like Nintendo did with Bayonetta.

Epic Games bring games to the PC, which is more than what Nintendo do.

Epic Games allow their exclusives to be released on rival platforms on the same day, unlike Nintendo.

And Epic exclusives are usually timed exclusives, they'll eventually make their way onto other PC gaming storefronts... unlike Nintendo exclusives which remain exclusive to Nintendo consoles FOREVER
Um, thats not a positive thing. Gamers want Nintendo gone. Thats like saying someone was taken hostage forever.

Maybe, but my point is that it currently seems fashionable to bash Epic for doing what Sony, Microsoft and Nintendo have been doing for years.

Personally, I think Epic are ahead of the curve. AFAIK Microsoft have already announced a download only XBOX. If every console goes download only, what's the point of consoles?

They might as well just be PlayStation and Nintendo storefronts on other devices (or release their games on Steam like what Microsoft have announced)

But, _of course_ Sony won't keep their exclusives just on their storefront! Neither woulkd Nintendo....

Because that would make them just like Epic... or at best, EA and Ubisoft...
AD2001 20 JUN 2019 a las 11:14 p. m. 
Publicado originalmente por Starless Æon:
Publicado originalmente por geoneil:
What are your opinions on Epic Games Store?

They fund developers to make games in exchange for exclusivity, just like Nintendo did with Bayonetta.

Epic Games bring games to the PC, which is more than what Nintendo do.

Epic Games allow their exclusives to be released on rival platforms on the same day, unlike Nintendo.

And Epic exclusives are usually timed exclusives, they'll eventually make their way onto other PC gaming storefronts... unlike Nintendo exclusives which remain exclusive to Nintendo consoles FOREVER
Um, thats not a positive thing. Gamers want Nintendo gone. Thats like saying someone was taken hostage forever.


your so funny.
Charged Dreamer 21 JUN 2019 a las 1:41 a. m. 
Publicado originalmente por geoneil:
Maybe, but my point is that it currently seems fashionable to bash Epic for doing what Sony, Microsoft and Nintendo have been doing for years.

Personally, I think Epic are ahead of the curve. AFAIK Microsoft have already announced a download only XBOX. If every console goes download only, what's the point of consoles?

They might as well just be PlayStation and Nintendo storefronts on other devices (or release their games on Steam like what Microsoft have announced)

But, _of course_ Sony won't keep their exclusives just on their storefront! Neither woulkd Nintendo....

Because that would make them just like Epic... or at best, EA and Ubisoft...

You do realize PC is a open market right? It's not as restrictive as consoles. Anybody with a lot of money and resources can enter into the PC market and launch their service or sell their games as they like. Comparing Epic Games Store with other consoles is just bs. What Sony and Microsoft are doing is completely different. They invest billions into making consoles and even sell them at a loss initially. Sony/Microsoft have their own servers for online multiplayer. They advertise, hold press conferences, events like E3 for the games they publish.

I don't think Sony and Nintendo are gonna sell their games on PC anytime soon (mostly never). That's the point of consoles. People would continue to buy consoles because they're very cheaper than a PC with similar config. Playstation console for eg. is initially sold at a loss. Both, Nintendo and Sony are doing extremely well with their traditional gaming business.
geoneil 21 JUN 2019 a las 9:05 a. m. 
Publicado originalmente por Yash:
Publicado originalmente por geoneil:
Maybe, but my point is that it currently seems fashionable to bash Epic for doing what Sony, Microsoft and Nintendo have been doing for years.

Personally, I think Epic are ahead of the curve. AFAIK Microsoft have already announced a download only XBOX. If every console goes download only, what's the point of consoles?

They might as well just be PlayStation and Nintendo storefronts on other devices (or release their games on Steam like what Microsoft have announced)

But, _of course_ Sony won't keep their exclusives just on their storefront! Neither woulkd Nintendo....

Because that would make them just like Epic... or at best, EA and Ubisoft...

You do realize PC is a open market right? It's not as restrictive as consoles. Anybody with a lot of money and resources can enter into the PC market and launch their service or sell their games as they like.

This includes Sony, Microsoft and Nintendo.

Comparing Epic Games Store with other consoles is just bs.

Why?

What Sony and Microsoft are doing is completely different.

How?

They invest billions into making consoles and even sell them at a loss initially.

An investment and a loss that Epic, Valve, EA, Ubisoft, GOG, Itch etc aren't making.

In fact, Valve tried and failed at making their own console (or at least line of consoles) it was done on the same terms as the 3DO... and failed harder than the 3DO.

Sony/Microsoft have their own servers for online multiplayer. They advertise, hold press conferences, events like E3 for the games they publish.

Because only Sony and Microsoft have press conferences at E3. Only Sony and Microsoft advertise, only Sony and Microsoft have their own servers, no other company does this. No other company will ever do this.

I don't think Sony and Nintendo are gonna sell their games on PC anytime soon (mostly never).

So you'll have no problem if Epic never sell their exclusives anywhere other than the Epic Games Store. After all, if it's OK for Sony and Nintendo to do it, why not Epic?

That's the point of consoles.

That point being? Why would a company continue to invest into and sell hardware at a loss, especially if all platforms are download only and all consoles use the same hardware? For the last two generations, all consoles have been made with off-the-shelf PC parts (which the notable exception of the Switch which was made with off-the-shelf tablet parts)

People would continue to buy consoles because they're very cheaper than a PC with similar config.

Really?

Playstation console for eg. is initially sold at a loss.

A loss that Epic doesn't have to incur.

Both, Nintendo and Sony are doing extremely well with their traditional gaming business.

So are Epic.
Última edición por geoneil; 21 JUN 2019 a las 9:06 a. m.
Charged Dreamer 21 JUN 2019 a las 10:02 a. m. 
woah woah big guy.......

Sony and Nintendo aren't open markets. You need to comply with their rules and terms as a publisher. Games are also certified on consoles. Sony/Nintendo won't let Epic/Valve or anyone else to launch their own launchers/apps on their systems. Of course they'll include non-gaming third party services like Netflix, YouTube, Spotify, Hulu, Amazon Prime and other entertainment apps. But a big NO to all third party stores.

That's one of the reason why its bs to compare Epic Game Store to Sony/Nintendo shops. More reasons on the original post.

I was talking about investment in producing, manufacturing, promoting and selling consoles. You seem to misunderstand that. Trust me mate, its not that easy. Marketing also plays a huge role (remember Xbox One's disastrous launch?). Billions of dollars are spent into these project and small mistakes can cause huge losses considering consoles are sold at a loss too.

Yes, its is okay for console makers to sell their exclusives on their own stores. Are you crazy or something dude? Don't you understand what first party titles are?? Their rules, if you want to buy the game buy the console or move away. Consoles need to have exclusives, its one of the reason they sell soo great. What's the point of selling a console if there are no first party titles.

You said what's the point in selling at a console at a loss. It's a very broader concept. Loss Leader Pricing to be precise. In order to make a long term income, producers sell their products at a very cheap price. They must be idiots!!!!! LOL...well no, that's because there are plenty of other sources they can earn money. First off they make money by getting charging 30% direct cut from every purchase you make from Playstation Network/Xbox Store. They also make a cut with every physical game you buy from a retailer. Both Sony and Microsoft charge $40/year for online services and that's where the servers comes in sir. And yes, other companies are also free to do that, just don't panic.

Sony/Nintendo and even Microsoft (we'll just take Sony/Nintendo for now) have bought several studios under Sony Interactive Entertainment and Nintendo Publishing respectively. Sony for eg. spends massive amounts on their first party games like God of War, Spider-Man, Horizon Zero Dawn and it makes them a lot of money by selling millions of copies. Good exclusives also make good headlines on the internet and bring more new people on-to those consoles. Same with Switch (besides its portability and friendly games). Now don't say why they aren't selling their games on PC....

If publishers want to steer away from Steam and sell their games on their own clients or make the deal with the dev...Epic Game Store there's nothing illegal about it. They can do whatever they want. They just won't get my money. Sadly it's my loss as it won't matter to them if they lose one customer like me.

"Both, Nintendo and Sony are doing extremely well with their traditional gaming business". I actually meant selling consoles and bringing new excluives every year.

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/sony-microsoft-apos-consoles-big-000000145.html

https://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain/2013/09/20/sony-to-take-a-loss-on-playstation-4-sales/#299896576f1d - 2013 report

https://www.makeuseof.com/tag/reasons-console-gaming-better-pc-gaming/ - reasons people buy consoles over PC...includes one of my point (exclusives)
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