I am ABSOLUTELY in a state of shock that Bayonetta 1 is on steam....

[dathip]

I have no words to describe this. This.....This is literally the biggest suprise I have seen in years....

Now we need vanquish and many others if possible.

[iemander]

Publicado originalmente por General Plastro:

Publicado originalmente por iemander:

Andromeda also used the older well known v3 version of Denuvo so no surprise there. Nier Will be far more difficult to crack.

Uh... no, CPY announced that it uses the same "4th generation" Denuvo (a name used by themselves), heck, they even cite Nier as one of the games using it.

If you really wanna see it, download ME Andromeda and read the CPY text file.

I would post a screenshot of it, but... quite frankly i already deleted my downloaded ME:A game, cracked or not the game is utter garbage (and it just gave me flashbacks to the original trilogy).

Now, if you wanna doubt CPY's word, thats your prerrogative.

And yeah, i fully approve of screwing with EA games, those #$$%@# get away with ilegal working practices because they apparently have too much $$$ to win over court cases, so nobody bothers.

I can't really get too far into this as talking about piracy is against the tos. But here is an article claiming the same. I suggest you look at the source directly, which I can't post here for obvious reasons.
https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20170414/09372837150/that-was-fast-denuvos-version-3-update-has-been-cracked.shtml

It did get v4 in the latest patch tho.

[General Plastro]

Publicado originalmente por iemander:

Publicado originalmente por AlenaAkashiya:

In Niers case it's a matter of business not priority I'm sure. Even the crackers want the game to succeed and sell well In the beginning in hopes of a sequel or a port of the original. Yoko Taro himself stated depending on the success of the game will dictate the future of the series.
Most companies make their biggest profit during the first month or so after release and during sales.
Crackers are not brain dead or poor people.
Also in ME case, it was cracked fast because it's a ♥♥♥♥ game. If you notice crackers tend to do fast work of terrible or controversial games as a way to spite companies and developers.

Crackers are illegally funded groups that target based on popularity. These people have no sense of ethics or morality. There's a substantial business model behind piracy extremely prevelent in Eastern countries.

They probably took 2Dark to "train" on a simplified version of Denuvo v4 before tackling anything 64bit

Oh please... less xenophobism and assumptions (CPY themselves are italian-based), but there are folks all over the world involved with scene releases, "no morality or ethics"? I say those working on Denuvo are the ones lacking those 2 elements, since Denuvo is essentially a killswitch. Denuvo is getting more and more irrelevant as time goes by and we should rejoice in that.

And ME:A's update has already been cracked, so there is no such thing as "training" on "simplified version".

[iemander]

Publicado originalmente por General Plastro:

Publicado originalmente por iemander:

Crackers are illegally funded groups that target based on popularity. These people have no sense of ethics or morality. There's a substantial business model behind piracy extremely prevelent in Eastern countries.

They probably took 2Dark to "train" on a simplified version of Denuvo v4 before tackling anything 64bit

Oh please... less xenophobism and assumptions, "no morality or ethics"? I say those working on Denuvo are the ones lacking those 2 elements. Denuvo is getting more and more irrelevant as time goes by and we should rejoice in that.

Do you know how prevelent bootlegs are in eastern countries? Or in poorer ones? In most you can just go into any shop and buy pirated stuff. There are many that profit from piracy to an extent you can't imagine.

Also Denuvo just fixes a need, if they wouldn't exist all publishers would just make their own. Or worse, like making an inclusive marketplace like Windows store that embeds anti piracy measures.

[iemander]

Publicado originalmente por General Plastro:

And ME:A's update has already been cracked, so there is no such thing as "training" on "simplified version".

I just checked the status and can confirm this isn't true. Where are you looking?

[General Plastro]

Publicado originalmente por iemander:

Publicado originalmente por General Plastro:

Oh please... less xenophobism and assumptions, "no morality or ethics"? I say those working on Denuvo are the ones lacking those 2 elements. Denuvo is getting more and more irrelevant as time goes by and we should rejoice in that.

Do you know how prevelent bootlegs are in eastern countries? Or in poorer ones? In most you can just go into any shop and buy pirated stuff. There are many that profit from piracy to an extent you can't imagine.

Also Denuvo just fixes a need, if they wouldn't exist all publishers would just make their own. Or worse, like making an inclusive marketplace like Windows store that embeds anti piracy measures.

I live in brazil, i not only know, but i live the reality you describe.

Denuvo has killed many releases here due to the exorbitant price it adds ontop of the final price.

The DRM simply doesnt matter in the end for the countries you describe. Denuvo fixes a perceived need that companies have (to present shareholders that their products are "indeed fully protected".

All publishers making their own is quite literally impossible, in-house development costs ALOT of $$$ and we would have a sub-par product.

So in the end, in-house DRM would be better than Denuvo for purposes of preservation.

A closed off marketplace like Windows Store wont happen, not because of DRM, but for other reasons (desktop user profile, restrictions on developer's, giving $$$ to microsoft on every sale, etc), microsoft has tried (and failed) to emulate Apple for quite some time now, it only succeded in making non microsoft-tied solutions grow in popularity (OpenGL & derivatives is pretty much predominant now, versus DX predominance a few years ago).

So no, i disagree with you, Denuvo sucks and i dont think we would be worse off without it.

[General Plastro]

Publicado originalmente por iemander:

Publicado originalmente por General Plastro:

And ME:A's update has already been cracked, so there is no such thing as "training" on "simplified version".

I just checked the status and can confirm this isn't true. Where are you looking?

Add me on steam if you wanna talk.

[General Plastro]

Publicado originalmente por General Plastro:

Publicado originalmente por iemander:

Do you know how prevelent bootlegs are in eastern countries? Or in poorer ones? In most you can just go into any shop and buy pirated stuff. There are many that profit from piracy to an extent you can't imagine.

Also Denuvo just fixes a need, if they wouldn't exist all publishers would just make their own. Or worse, like making an inclusive marketplace like Windows store that embeds anti piracy measures.

I live in brazil, i not only know, but i live the reality you describe.

Denuvo has killed many releases here due to the exorbitant price it adds ontop of the final price.

The DRM simply doesnt matter in the end for the countries you describe. Denuvo fixes a perceived need that companies have (to present shareholders that their products are "indeed fully protected".

All publishers making their own is quite literally impossible, in-house development costs ALOT of $$$ and we would have a sub-par product.

So in the end, in-house DRM would be better than Denuvo for purposes of preservation.

A closed off marketplace like Windows Store wont happen, not because of DRM, but for other reasons (desktop user profile, restrictions on developer's, giving $$$ to microsoft on every sale, etc), microsoft has tried (and failed) to emulate Apple for quite some time now, it only succeded in making non microsoft-tied solutions grow in popularity (OpenGL & derivatives is pretty much predominant now, versus DX predominance a few years ago).

So no, i disagree with you, Denuvo sucks and i dont think we would be worse off without it.

Let me reinterate what i said, we could be indeed worse.

If every videogame starts to become always online (as in, not all essential files are even on your PC), then we can truly say it could be the end of not just piracy (as we know it), but drastic changes on how we perceive ownership of videogames.

Well, i guess not as drastic, some games area already like that. But if that becomes commonplace, i am pretty sure i am quitting "modern" gaming althogether (which isnt exactly hard, my AAA purchases are getting rarer and rarer due to extremely poor quality of the AAA industry).

[dathip]

I will be playing this game tomorrow guys, just you watch, can't wait!!!

[オニユリLianNishang]

Publicado originalmente por dathip:

I will be playing this game tomorrow guys, just you watch, can't wait!!!

Congratulations you're ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ late.

[El Fuerte]

yeah he bought it

[tm0Lif3]

Publicado originalmente por RED:

yeah he bought it

he finally bought it after caught red handed for maximu stupidity

[KiKoGoTsKiLL]

Publicado originalmente por The Joker:

Publicado originalmente por Vulgrimm:

can somebody help me game launch in window white screen and instantly closes :(

This problem is fixed by buying the game.

Lol

[Kuruseida]

I love this thread, how everyone just came in to throw some sh*t at op cause they thought he was a pirate.. and he actually bought it eksdee~

[dathip]

This game is a masterpiece, Can't wait to play it!