El Fuerte wake up bodyslam spams. How to deal with them?

[SenMithrarin85]

As title. Sick of cheap-assed morons spamming that stopping you from recovering. Why hasn't this been addressed officially? Hakan has a similar move with similarly cheap morons.

[Useless Bunny]

Spam DP.

[SenMithrarin85]

DP?

[WickedRequiem]

What if his character doesn't have a dp option?
Would a wake up back dash work?

[SenMithrarin85]

Originally posted by WickedRequiem:

What if his character doesn't have a dp option?

Still don't know what DP is. I'm using Sakura at the moment if it helps.

[Useless Bunny]

Dragon punch, shoryuken, anti-air god move, the airplane killer, etc.

[SenMithrarin85]

Originally posted by Useless Bunny:

Dragon punch, shoryuken.

Ah right!

[Useless Bunny]

You could probably mess around with delayed wake ups, backdash, focus or focus + backdash (I don't know if body slam breaks armor) as well.

[n00bdragon]

Backdashing should also work as the invincibility is immediate. The only trick would be backdashing in the correct direction if he tries a crossup Tostada Press.

There's no reason to look on this as horrible and unfair though. That's just what El Fuerte does and what he's designed to do. If you can learn to deal with this you deny him a good portion of his gameplan.

[Midnight Meows]

It's a 50 / 50. You can either do the above or try to dash out. You either guess correctly or you don't.

I hate how brain dead Elf is.

[Cipher Esteria]

Originally posted by Another:

It's a 50 / 50. You can either do the above or try to dash out. You either guess correctly or you don't.

I hate how brain dead Elf is.

Not only Elf, Viper goes the same way,she's just 5000 times harder to use.
Or online Blankas,or Rolentos,he Balrogs can do this quite well too


@OP. Sakuras backdash isn't good,focus backdash is your best option. Oh and His Press is -17 IN THE BEST CASE.
Free Punish!!!

[thegodvicious]

Originally posted by WickedRequiem:

What if his character doesn't have a dp option?
Would a wake up back dash work?

wakeup jumpback is a better way out imo because the splash still catches backdashes so you'd still have to guess where as if you jump back it will hit you airborne which messes with the timing makking it easier to get out

[Azza]

Against his body slams you need to pick a direction to stand block.
As depending what range he does the slam from he can hit you from the front or from behind.
If you block it you can punish him during the recovery of the slam as its not safe on block.
You can also focus attack on wake up and absorb the splash. If he attempts to hit you in front you can score a focus crumple for big damage, if he hits behind you can dash after him or you can dash away from him.

But El Fuerte has several other options off his forward dash run. He can also do his Fajita Buster which looks identical to the body press but its actually a grab so it can't be blocked or focus attacked, you need to jump out of the way or crouch, as the throw can not connect with either jumping or crouching characters.

He can do his Sobat Kick which can be blocked high or low, but it goes over low hitting moves and he can combo off it if he hits you with it. This is safe on block but you can focus attack it on wake up.

He can also do the slide, this move can be blocked low and then punished on block or you can focus attack it.

His final option is to simply stop running, and mix you up with regular jab pressure, tick throws and his overhead.

Off his backdash run, he again can do his body splam, but the same counters above apply to it.

He also has his propeller tortilla throw off his back dash. You must jump out of the way or use a move that's invincible. You can not crouch to avoid, block it or focus it.

[KilaCobraKai]

I dont think the Fajita Buster can be crouched either.

[Monk]

Focus backdash or level 2 focus and punish hard. Thing is sometimes its hard to tell if he's gonna do slam or grab, you have to have a good guess.
I think Sakura' cr.hp may beat it if timed correctly, not sure though.

[Nocturno]

Focus back dash or jump back fierce with most characters.