How to optimize for best quality when streaming 3d movies / games as host?

[Fenix]

Any tips for this?

I mean I know we have the bigscreen multiplayer settings resolution going from 480p to 1080p.

Then we have our own resolution (for youtube, or a VLC played movie) For instance, playing an SBS movie on Youtube ranging from 720p to 4k.

Then we have our own download/upload speeds. Upload speeds being key.

Also, streaming must interfere versus having something locally on your harddrive that you are playing.

Any suggestions, or minimum upload speed and settings? Thank you!!!!

[shanks]

The best thing for streaming is to make sure you have a Skylake or newer i7 desktop CPU (not mobile CPUs). We use media encoders for hardware acceleration that isn't available on older CPUs. Work is being done to fix this and support HW acceleration on older CPUs/GPUs, however (stay tuned)

If you're doing text-heavy stuff, go with 1080p. Less fps but crisp text.

If you're watching a movie, 480p at 30fps tends to be good enough. You can probably also lower your desktop resolution itself to 720p or 1080p instead of much higher resolutions that are common these days.

Upload requirements tend to be 2Mbps per 1080p upstream (i.e. 3 people in a room = 6 Mbps upstream max). This varies a bit.

[Wagnard-Qc]

Nguyên văn bởi Bigscreen shanks:

The best thing for streaming is to make sure you have a Skylake or newer i7 desktop CPU (not mobile CPUs). We use media encoders for hardware acceleration that isn't available on older CPUs. Work is being done to fix this and support HW acceleration on older CPUs/GPUs, however (stay tuned)

If you're doing text-heavy stuff, go with 1080p. Less fps but crisp text.

If you're watching a movie, 480p at 30fps tends to be good enough. You can probably also lower your desktop resolution itself to 720p or 1080p instead of much higher resolutions that are common these days.

Upload requirements tend to be 2Mbps per 1080p upstream (i.e. 3 people in a room = 6 Mbps upstream max). This varies a bit.

I also have a Skylake processor (6700K), It didnt really changed much from my old 3770k for streaming.

Is enabling the integrated GPU required for the acceleration you talk about?
Do I need to install some extra software?

[shanks]

Nguyên văn bởi Wagnard-Qc:

Nguyên văn bởi Bigscreen shanks:

The best thing for streaming is to make sure you have a Skylake or newer i7 desktop CPU (not mobile CPUs). We use media encoders for hardware acceleration that isn't available on older CPUs. Work is being done to fix this and support HW acceleration on older CPUs/GPUs, however (stay tuned)

If you're doing text-heavy stuff, go with 1080p. Less fps but crisp text.

If you're watching a movie, 480p at 30fps tends to be good enough. You can probably also lower your desktop resolution itself to 720p or 1080p instead of much higher resolutions that are common these days.

Upload requirements tend to be 2Mbps per 1080p upstream (i.e. 3 people in a room = 6 Mbps upstream max). This varies a bit.

I also have a Skylake processor (6700K), It didnt really changed much from my old 3770k for streaming.

Is enabling the integrated GPU required for the acceleration you talk about?
Do I need to install some extra software?

Having an i7 Skylake or newer (like the 6700K) ensures that you will be able to stream outbound to others at 1080p 30fps. Have you asked other people in the room? You might be streaming an awesome stream!

However, if other people have an older CPU, they might still be struggling to stream at 30fps, so you would still see a low FPS stream from them.


The Skylake CPU's media encoder allows us to encode outgoing streams at 30fps very easily. Does that make sense?

[Wagnard-Qc]

Nguyên văn bởi Bigscreen shanks:

Nguyên văn bởi Wagnard-Qc:

I also have a Skylake processor (6700K), It didnt really changed much from my old 3770k for streaming.

Is enabling the integrated GPU required for the acceleration you talk about?
Do I need to install some extra software?

Having an i7 Skylake or newer (like the 6700K) ensures that you will be able to stream outbound to others at 1080p 30fps. Have you asked other people in the room? You might be streaming an awesome stream!

However, if other people have an older CPU, they might still be struggling to stream at 30fps, so you would still see a low FPS stream from them.


The Skylake CPU's media encoder allows us to encode outgoing streams at 30fps very easily. Does that make sense?

I asked others and they said it was unwatchable. No idea about their CPU tho.

[shanks]

Nguyên văn bởi Wagnard-Qc:

Nguyên văn bởi Bigscreen shanks:

Having an i7 Skylake or newer (like the 6700K) ensures that you will be able to stream outbound to others at 1080p 30fps. Have you asked other people in the room? You might be streaming an awesome stream!

However, if other people have an older CPU, they might still be struggling to stream at 30fps, so you would still see a low FPS stream from them.


The Skylake CPU's media encoder allows us to encode outgoing streams at 30fps very easily. Does that make sense?

I asked others and they said it was unwatchable. No idea about their CPU tho.

> Is enabling the integrated GPU required for the acceleration you talk about?

Have you disabled the integrated GPU somehow? I wonder if this is blocking our hardware acceleration and thus relying on software acceleration on the CPU.

[Wagnard-Qc]

Nguyên văn bởi Bigscreen shanks:

Nguyên văn bởi Wagnard-Qc:

I asked others and they said it was unwatchable. No idea about their CPU tho.

> Is enabling the integrated GPU required for the acceleration you talk about?

Have you disabled the integrated GPU somehow? I wonder if this is blocking our hardware acceleration and thus relying on software acceleration on the CPU.

If you are using the Intelquicksync, then you need to enable the GPU. By default it was disabled. I enable it, didnt see much change tho.
Also, I mostly test with my brother and the problem is more Upload speed. YOur networking mechanism need to be enhanced because I can uplaod at 20mbps and sometime I see that when streaming with 1080p, its not even sending at 1mpbs. When this is happening my brother say its stutter a lot.

Then after a while, I can see hte upload up to 2.5+Mbits and he confirm to me that evrything is fast.

Not sure what or how you are streming but you should look at connections optimization as the problem on my side is not really the CPU encoding stuff but mostly networking.

[Fenix]

Processor stuff aside-- just wanted to see if I could get clairification on what we *should* be streaming. For instance, a youtube video-- you were saying 480p? How about 3D movies on our hard-drives? Most come in 720p or 1080p..

Also what about the bigscreen resolution settings? Thanks once again for all your help!

[Macab]

Anime runs great. Why is that?

[Fenix]

What kind of toll does this take on our gfx cards? Just curious-- I'm not sure if running the Witcher 3 maxed out + mods or this did my 1070 GTX FTW in, but it bit the dust yesterday. Got a 1080 though, so happy about that anyway =)

[Lectrodz]

Nguyên văn bởi Bigscreen shanks:

Work is being done to fix this and support HW acceleration on older CPUs/GPUs, however (stay tuned)

Hello !

Do you mean my old HD7870 GPU will be used to encode my stream ? Because I have an old i5 750 CPU and I was wondering why I was able to perfectly encode a game with OBS (1080p 60fps) and I was not able to stream correctly with BigScreen (like 2fps for other users). My upload speed is 100Mb/s so no prob here.

Thank you for this software !

[Drachi]

Where can I set my outgoing stream resolution? In the setup for my room, as a host, I was only able to set it to 480p. Any idea? I'm rocking a 6700k and an 1070 and got about 20mbit/s upstream.
Edit: And I want to say thank you for this incredible software. Tonight, I tested watching a movie (avatar 3d) in the cinema... And later I switched to a 2D movie... The Matrix. Wow, what a mindF..K (in a good sense)... The guy I was testing it said how weird it would be to take the headset off... And still be in a theatre, hahaha.

Keep up the good stuff! How do you manage to keep this great programm free? When will it go out of beta? When can I pay you for your work?

[Fenix]

Nguyên văn bởi Drachi:

Where can I set my outgoing stream resolution? In the setup for my room, as a host, I was only able to set it to 480p. Any idea? I'm rocking a 6700k and an 1070 and got about 20mbit/s upstream.
Edit: And I want to say thank you for this incredible software. Tonight, I tested watching a movie (avatar 3d) in the cinema... And later I switched to a 2D movie... The Matrix. Wow, what a mindF..K (in a good sense)... The guy I was testing it said how weird it would be to take the headset off... And still be in a theatre, hahaha.

Keep up the good stuff! How do you manage to keep this great programm free? When will it go out of beta? When can I pay you for your work?

I know it's in the multiplayer section in the tabs, you can set it to 1080p. Also there's a few tweaks in the settings section I believe, but I'm not looking at it and have to make a grocery run for wifey. Let me know if you can't find it and I can find the exact spot. But I'm like 99% sure it's the Multiplayer tab

[Drachi]

Yeah the setting IS in the multplayer settings, the camera-icon, but I couldn't set it higher than 480p. That's what I thought was strange.

[shanks]

Nguyên văn bởi Drachi:

Where can I set my outgoing stream resolution? In the setup for my room, as a host, I was only able to set it to 480p. Any idea? I'm rocking a 6700k and an 1070 and got about 20mbit/s upstream.
Edit: And I want to say thank you for this incredible software. Tonight, I tested watching a movie (avatar 3d) in the cinema... And later I switched to a 2D movie... The Matrix. Wow, what a mindF..K (in a good sense)... The guy I was testing it said how weird it would be to take the headset off... And still be in a theatre, hahaha.

Keep up the good stuff! How do you manage to keep this great programm free? When will it go out of beta? When can I pay you for your work?

Can you send me a screenshot of your Bigscreen Multiplayer Settings? You cannot click the dropdown? It should have 3 options, 720p and 1080p.

Glad you're loving the software. Please leave us a review if you want! And if you have bugs, problems, or feedback, post it here or email us.

The program will always be free, but we plan to one day sell premium stuff (avatars, environments, and extra features)

[Drachi]

Hey Shanks, thanks for the reply. I'll dive in later and see whether I can find it now or not, I'll keep you posted. I've written a short review a few hours ago. Great to hear that you intend to keep the base programm free!