Frosty Planet suffers from needing everything right away

[Traslo]

I prefer to give more elaborate feedback but the best way I can convey the problem of this DLC is as follows:

-We need phosphorite so farming is renewable.
-For This we need to ranch the new Bammoths.
-To do this, we need a full farm setup with their one eaten food type.
-By the time we set this up we need renewable wood due to lack of coal.
- To do this, we need to ranch the new Flox.
- To Ranch Flox, we need a full farm setup with their one eaten food type.
- To do this, we'd need phosphorite that isn't imminently running out.


All this before having a renewable source of fertiliser and energy.

It suffers from a "We need to do a bit of everything before we can do a bit of anything." loop

[cswiger]

Originally posted by Traslogan:

-We need phosphorite so farming is renewable.

This premise is wrong. You can farm without ever making or using fertilizer.

Whether a farm is renewable depends on the plants being farmed. Some plants only need water, so renewable farming depends on a renewable source of water. Other plants need dirt, in which case you need to recycle pdirt into dirt via Compost buildings.

-For This we need to ranch the new Bammoths.
-To do this, we need a full farm setup with their one eaten food type.

This premise is wrong.

You need to have plant(s) available in the ranch for the critter to eat, but they can be wild and not farmed. Wild plants don't require anything to grow; they just grow more slowly.

- To Ranch Flox, we need a full farm setup with their one eaten food type.

Ditto.

[PepeMilagro]

It sounds to me you're going in the wrong direction ...
I started with plenty of plants available in the immediate vicinity to sustain like 4 dupes for a while.
My 5th dupe was a farmer so I set up some free farm tiles with pikeapples. These don't need much and produce plenty of food. Since my 6th dupe/chef poped up and started cooking them, food is going to waste.
The though part was to dig out of the starting area because of all the snow, I admit. But then I found plenty of ethanol and that has been my fuel for the past year, and I have only been pumping out of 2 puddles so far.
The hardest part after that was reaching the oil biomes, cause they were split from the main area by a large vacuum area. So that took some creative thinking and patience as well.
I am currently in year 370 with 09 dupes. Doing great