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Bottle emptier problem
When i hover over a polluted water bottle on the floor the errand is sweep, but when i click the errands tab for the bottle emptier for my polluted water it lists the errand as storing.

I dont understand. What am I supposed to prioritize, by base is full of bottles that arnt being emptied. I have 15 dupes 3 of them are storage and cleaning. Even with the bottles at a priority of 9, they arnt emptying any bottles.
Originally posted by Dixon Sider:
Originally posted by The Prophet:
Originally posted by Dixon Sider:
The bottle emptier at 9 won't mean ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ if you plummet your storage tasks.

Also keep in mind that the task becomes impossible to do while another bottle rests in the emptier. So it naturally takes a long time.

My solution to this problem? Plant some reeds. Your dupes will all rush to dump their messes into the reeds planter.

what do you mean by "plummet your storage tasks"? Like overwhelm the dupes with task?
If you put anything else above storage in your priorities then they will always do everything in that category before storage tasks. I always keep 1 dupe with storage at very high. They pretty much just run around cleaning up all their life

However, if you decide to sweep it, then it becomes tidying and not storage (maybe both?). But same thing applies. You need to have that be the dupes highest priority.
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Ok, first the obvious: did you set your emptiers to accept said bottled liquids?
Don't laugh, it happened to all of us :KentHappy:

Then, I would increase the emptiers priority.

But to be honest that frustrates me as well. When I want to clear an area fisa, it's emptier at 9, tyding at 9 and bottles at 9!! .. only way to have these lads take it seriously :winter2019joyfultearsbulb:
yup, gotta up the priority of the bottle emptier.
and put a sweep task on the bottles.
and set them both to yellow alert.
that'll get it done.

though keep in mind that if there's a bottle being emptied in the bottle emptier a dupe won't even queue up a task to go empty another bottle until the bottle emptier is free again. you might need multiple bottle emptiers if you have a large number of bottles you want cleaned up.
yah bottle emptier s almost need a storage tank before being added to a drain line, 1 for each emptier this way the bottle can empty even if other bottles are being emptied or the drain line is already in use. liquid storage can be placed directly on the drain line so that it only empties into an empty pipe.
or you can just build more bottle emptiers if you need that many bottles emptied... or just build a pump at that point :P
yah i do that i just like setting up an area for waist fluids and mop water haveing 3 is usually good even if you set multiple fluid types. that also depends on how many dupes you have if you only have a dozen dupes you probly only need 1 or 2. just remember they off gas while on the emptier
Last edited by sgargoyle; Mar 30 @ 8:49am
The bottle emptier at 9 won't mean ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ if you plummet your storage tasks.

Also keep in mind that the task becomes impossible to do while another bottle rests in the emptier. So it naturally takes a long time.

My solution to this problem? Plant some reeds. Your dupes will all rush to dump their messes into the reeds planter.
Originally posted by PepeMilagro:
Ok, first the obvious: did you set your emptiers to accept said bottled liquids?
Don't laugh, it happened to all of us :KentHappy:

Then, I would increase the emptiers priority.

But to be honest that frustrates me as well. When I want to clear an area fisa, it's emptier at 9, tyding at 9 and bottles at 9!! .. only way to have these lads take it seriously :winter2019joyfultearsbulb:

Of course, one to water one to polluted water. The thing I am dumbfounded by is that i have 2 or three dupes with only, sweeping as max priority and when I look at their priorities, its something that has nothing to do with the bottle emptier nor sweeping. I understand that you suggest to put the bottler emptier at 9 priority but, to me, that seems like it would throw off the rest of the priorities of my base.
Originally posted by kingjames488:
yup, gotta up the priority of the bottle emptier.
and put a sweep task on the bottles.
and set them both to yellow alert.
that'll get it done.

though keep in mind that if there's a bottle being emptied in the bottle emptier a dupe won't even queue up a task to go empty another bottle until the bottle emptier is free again. you might need multiple bottle emptiers if you have a large number of bottles you want cleaned up.

I understand thats its recommended to put it on priority 9 but to me it seems that indicates that something isnt working correctly. I have 3 storing supplying and tyding. each one set to max per task. EG 2 up arrows for supplying for dupe, dedicated. 2 up arrows to another dupe for tyding and the third dupe with 2 up arrow for storing. So i have a dupe dedicated per task. NONE of them are are emptying bottles.

ive played for 250 hours and had this game for a couple years and never had this problem. Do i need to X the other tasks that are marked as -.
Originally posted by sgargoyle:
yah bottle emptier s almost need a storage tank before being added to a drain line, 1 for each emptier this way the bottle can empty even if other bottles are being emptied or the drain line is already in use. liquid storage can be placed directly on the drain line so that it only empties into an empty pipe.

The bottle emptiers are empting into an open space designated for water and another with polluted each one with dedicated room and emptier.
Originally posted by kingjames488:
or you can just build more bottle emptiers if you need that many bottles emptied... or just build a pump at that point :P

They arnt using any so i dont thing building more would help.
Originally posted by Dixon Sider:
The bottle emptier at 9 won't mean ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ if you plummet your storage tasks.

Also keep in mind that the task becomes impossible to do while another bottle rests in the emptier. So it naturally takes a long time.

My solution to this problem? Plant some reeds. Your dupes will all rush to dump their messes into the reeds planter.

what do you mean by "plummet your storage tasks"? Like overwhelm the dupes with task?
Originally posted by sgargoyle:
yah i do that i just like setting up an area for waist fluids and mop water haveing 3 is usually good even if you set multiple fluid types. that also depends on how many dupes you have if you only have a dozen dupes you probly only need 1 or 2. just remember they off gas while on the emptier

The pulluted water is emptied directly in a closed room (with door) and pumped into a sieve. With a deoderizer outside the door.
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Originally posted by The Prophet:
Originally posted by Dixon Sider:
The bottle emptier at 9 won't mean ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ if you plummet your storage tasks.

Also keep in mind that the task becomes impossible to do while another bottle rests in the emptier. So it naturally takes a long time.

My solution to this problem? Plant some reeds. Your dupes will all rush to dump their messes into the reeds planter.

what do you mean by "plummet your storage tasks"? Like overwhelm the dupes with task?
If you put anything else above storage in your priorities then they will always do everything in that category before storage tasks. I always keep 1 dupe with storage at very high. They pretty much just run around cleaning up all their life

However, if you decide to sweep it, then it becomes tidying and not storage (maybe both?). But same thing applies. You need to have that be the dupes highest priority.
Last edited by Dixon Sider; Mar 30 @ 6:45pm
If you want a quick way to check out the sweeping errand priority problems, take all of your storage containers and copy/paste the settings so that you have only 1 container that accepts that item. That container will have the dupes priorities listed. This will be easier to do with the bottle emptier thankfully
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3455395836
This will tell you why someone is not interested in picking it up. Click on things and get familiar with the UI. There are a lot of tooltips better describing the current situation for you as to why its not available. Or you have to find out what priorities are more important, then increase the total priority or decrease the priorities for everything else for the dupe you want doing the job.

Knowing what tasks utilize what priority is key. Eventually if you use this menu enough times, you will need to look at it less often.

Notice in the image I posted that Bubbles storage priority is 50 and the storage bins priority is 5. This means that the storage bin priority is kinda useless in the grand scheme of things. If you have all companions set their digging to 50 then storage to 40, even if the dig itself is 1 and the storage container itself is 9, the dig will win the comparison.

Individual tasks or buildings will only be able to tell your builder which building to prefer. Its not going to be able to convince your digger to build. They would have to have nothing else to do or you put it in yellow alert. Utilize task priorities for dupes because it is very powerful and can have you getting tasks done with very little micro management.
Last edited by Dixon Sider; Mar 30 @ 7:02pm
Quyzbuk Mar 31 @ 2:55pm 
If you want it done automatically via the bottle fillers then yes, you need to set your storing priority to very high. They are going to be bottlenecked by the 200 kg limit on each bottle emptier you have and will only bring as much as can be emptied at once.

If you want it done faster, make use of the relocate button and manually select each bottle, set the relocated spot to something above 5 (6 is fine if this isn't terribly important), and when all the bottles are there, just have them empty the single bottle that will now be holding everything instead of waiting for them to attach it to your emptier.

If you've got multiple janitor-type dupes, make sure you set their priorities appropriately to match the task type. You said you have 3 of them right now, so it should be perfectly fine to have one have very high priority on tidying, one on supplying, and the last on storing.
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